Oligarch and Ludwig,
Of course I agree entirely. With the current water situation, our choking cities and lack of infastructure we should be in a period of zero net immigration. As you say the more people, the more greenhouse gas emissions as well.

Ludwig, you ask "What is the Government doing?" Good question and I ask what is the Opposition doing? Shouting 'ME TOO'. Obviously both major parties are in the pockets of big business. So they do what big business wants (more sales) and to hell with what is best for Australia.

Why do both major parties avoid putting forward a population policy? I suggest that should be the basis of any immigration policy.

We really need to wake up quick but what does it tke to get people motivated.

Dont forget the complicity of the national newpapers in this,after all,more people more newspapers sold, higher profits.

Newspapers are big business. In my neck of the woods they really havent made too much noise about the new IR laws either. After all if they can reduce wages by using contracts and imported workers, it means even higher profits.

THE ROCK-: "I sure would like a mexican housemaid to work in my household for a very generous $5.00hour.

OK Rock I've got a job for you cleaning up the dirt and slop around my house for a very generous $5.00 and hour. Bit lower than what your earn an hour now isnt it? But you dont mind a bit of exploitation do you? Slavery included? $zero is not far off $5.00 an hour,after all I'm sure you wouldnt split hairs about the difference.

Would you also like a civil war on your doorstep like the Americans are going to have when the cheap black slave labour they imported
outnumbers them in 50years and the whites dont want to hand over their country at the ballot box.

Brother Pericles, your attempt at wise counsel is noted. (as is your 'rabble-rousing' :)

1/ You use an unsourced quote which states that the BNP 'blames all muslims for the worlds troubles' when it suits them.

2/ Try to 'tar' me with that brush.

Good try. the most effective propoganda (and_rabble_rousing:) is that where MOST of it is quite true and believable, but the little bits of untruth are also sent in like a virus attachment to a long email.

Clearly, I am in full agreement with the BNP in your first quote.

You second one is more dodgy.. "Of whom it has been said"..... now thats outright scurrulous, as it could have been said by their worst political enemy for purely political reasons.

Your 3rd quote is of more concern. I have no sympathy whatsoever for National Socialism, and if any wolfish party used that as a foundation for its political direction under the 'sheepskin' of populist language, then I also have grave reservations.

The most important point to come back at you on is the 'of whom it has been said' bit, where it mentioned "Suddenly All Muslims are the problem". I've not said that to my recollection. I've said the opposite "Some" Muslims, who are "Quranic" are a serious threat.
I've blamed "Islam" as a religion, and have gone to pains to point out that while most Muslims are "decent, hardworking and just getting on with life and family" (to quote another source) I've always maintained

a) that it is the radicals who are the problem.
b) That Radicals can have much more impact than their actual numbers would otherwise suggest.
c) That prior to admitting Muslims to Australia, they should be:
1/ Made aware of Aussie values and laws which are in conflict with the Quran
2/ Asked to sign a statement rejecting such Quranic teaching. If they will not, it is abundantly clear that they come here seeking to establish a community which is in conflict, values-wise with ours.

In particular Surah 23:5-6 and Surah 9:30

Now thats pretty clear and plain is it not?

banjo, you've got the australian disease: "the gummint shold do something!", or- "the opposition should do something!"

it's never: "we must do something!"

politicians are people who make a living out of getting elected. the country is run as an adjunct to this goal. so it's badly run, always, because the mechanics of getting elected demand bad management.

expecting any party to run the country in the interests of the people is as irresponsible as imagining pedophiles would make good child minders.

it will be hard to convert australia to democracy, but only needs recognition of the need and persistence. there are models to follow.

failure to start down the path to democracy will leave the nation in the hands of people who can not afford to understand, or simply don't care, that rising population and falling resources can only lead to rationing and ultimately, slavery.

I believe Muslim immigration to Australia is a serious threat to all things Australian. European, Chinese and Vietnamese migration has been a success story. Sectarian Turkish arrivals are also a success. More Muslims will add to a growing underclass of Centre link dependant poorly skilled but angry and envious people burdened with a host religious and cultural baggage totally incompatible with western society.
UNTIL MUSLIMS CAN BECOME SECTARIAN THEY HAVE NO PLACE IN AUSTRALIA OR ANYWHERE APART FROM THEIR BACKWARD HOMELANDS. MUSLIMS NEED AN INTERNAL”SORT OUT DAY” IF THEY ARE EVER GOING TO GET OUT OF THEIR “DARK AGE”.