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Diverse Immigration: Why not a gradualist, socioeconomically responsible policy?

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trapdiocan, the question still remains as to *who* is "integrated".
People from very high development countries would be the least problematic.
They already live in a society much like our own.

Suseonline, this is not a debate about our existing citizenry.
Please address the topic.

Nhoj, this is not a debate about our existing citizenry.
Please address the topic.

If you are both so concerned about such prejudices, you should support limiting immigration from the least advanced societies, where they flourish unchallenged.

Ludwig "especially given that the majority of our immigration program would be refugees, which would mostly come from the lowest level."

That's precisely what I wouldn't want.
That would be the most dangerous policy imaginable.

I want to prevent socioeconomic decline, not encourage it.

Improving living standards within the Low-Medium level would do much to reduce the number of refugees in the world.

If that is a concern to anyone, there are many organisations attempting such improvements.
Donate or volunteer.

The primary concern of our immigration policy should be its effect on *us*, not the immigrants.

"the biggest factor regarding our immigration program is the size of it."

Our immigration would be halved, even with current numbers, just by excluding the Low/Medium range.

The high/very high range is less likely to need state assistance, and ideally those things (public housing, schools, hospitals, welfare) need to be phased out.

Adding more Medium/Low will make phasing out state assistance impossible.
Posted by Shockadelic, Monday, 19 May 2014 12:43:52 PM
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why would those who 'run-away...from home and family..possably be seeking..comming here

this report Reveals Indigenous Human Rights Abuses
by Corporations/ngo's, and poor Governments..in the Amazon
By: WakingTimes

clearly/these globabilists are doing this globally
so the globalists are getting a free lunch..how about a new tax on huge globalists..?

where is their socio-ecomimic good for the people/whos trusts they betray..

<<Regnskogfondet (the Rainforest Foundation of Norway)
recently released a 52-page report entitled “Human Rights and Resource Conflicts in the Amazon.”..>>

The report took over six months to complete and gives an in-depth account of the conflicts activists and indigenous peoples (IPs) are having with corporations and governmental agencies.

It relays a situation..that does not look good.
what are the justification..to exploit others ritches?

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/16/report-reveals-indigenous-human-rights-abuses-corporations-governments-amazon/

and the thing is its happening here as we speak/first polute the authority/..then loot and plunder to thyne hearts content..sure some escape the dragnett..but we will return a few of them as kings.

hahaha..outcasts/made kings\
just give us your peoples wealth
we will house educate and heal your whole family..
even subsidize them their medicine..proof of residency..or vacation home/with free medical/

plan b?
http://investmentwatchblog.com/investing-in-ourselves/
Posted by one under god, Monday, 19 May 2014 1:48:35 PM
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That is the beauty behind "Integration" ! Integration was used in Australia after the white Australia Policy and before the Multiculturalism policy ! it is a policy that does not reflect a racist stance but it has an effect on the people who choose to immigrate to Australia ! simply because they cannot keep their community values and customs intact as is the problem with Multiculturalism ! it attracts people who are alike in mind values and customs thus it creates cohesion rather than division in the overall society ! Simply put "When In Rome"
Posted by trapdiocan, Monday, 19 May 2014 3:12:51 PM
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I agree Shockadelic.

Luddy the only difference between a refugee & an oppressor, is who won the fight.

Give these refugees the upper hand, & watch the worst aggressive behavior. This is what we are seeing with most, & I mean most, when they find themselves in control of one of our city suburbs, with softly softly policing letting them get away with murder.

The very worst people we have ever had come to Oz are these we are currently letting in, to pacify the bleeding hearts. It has to stop.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 19 May 2014 5:06:34 PM
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trapdiocan.
I agree with you, the emphasis should be on integration.

Multiculturalists only want diversity for the sake of diversity, with no consideration to whether or not some will not integrate.

From our own experience we should stop allowing in those who have shown they cannot/will not integrate and have nothing but contempt for our laws and social standards. There are only a few groups that need to be disallowed from coming here, but some have been here 3-4 generations and still have hatred for other groups and disregard our standards.

Some aspects of culture are so ingrained that they will never change. Our emphasis should be on social cohesion and our first concern should be to our citizens, not some alien culture.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 19 May 2014 7:44:01 PM
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Hasbeen, how about a few names of 'all' these refugees coming here and 'getting away with murder'?
That sounds dreadful if it is true.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't refugees living under the same laws as everyone else if they live in Australia?
Surely if they commit murder they would be faced with the same punishments as anyone else?

Suggesting we need only middle to upper class refugees, with qualifications we need in Australia , may have some merit.
However, to be fair, we would need to send all lower class citizens, with few or unneeded qualifications, and all those on pensions or welfare payments of any sort, away to other more 'lowlife' countries, wouldn't you think?

Well I'm ok to stay here, how about everyone else?
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 19 May 2014 7:46:42 PM
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