Well, Bill Shorten just blew the crap right out of ToneLIAR and Joe Cocky, with his budget reply speech.

The pre election LIES, LIES and more LIES from ToneLIAR and Cocky were exposed for all to clearly see.

The fake budget "emergency" (ha ha ha ha ha ha) was exposed for all to clearly see, and how impoverished aged pensioners will have their pension supplement totally scrapped and future pension increases decreased, how kids will be dumped on the scrapheap with zero $$$ unemployment support for 6 months straight, and how they ripped 80 BILLION $$$$$ out of hospitals and schools.

bill Shorten's speech was a cheap as crap, full of crap, exploitative waffle of crawling to the non-thinkers. He callously denounced every one of the Coalition's policies without actually offering a single policy himself.
What I'd like to ask Shorten is why they didn't implement all those policies in past six years they had every opportunity to. Why is they couldn't then but they could now ? why did Australia kick them out in the first place ? Not because of those brilliant policies of today but because they only ever had two policies. Send Australia broke & support the silent invaders by offering an expensive water taxi service from Indonesia.
Bill Shorten's speech could only appeal to educated morons.

Some people who work in professions like dentistry, accounting etc etc may be able to work into their later life without too much hassle, but a bricklayer a welder, boilermaker tradesman may find it a bit more difficult! it depends on the individuals themselves and how hard the horse has been worked throughout its life, but the majority and I do mean majority can not for physical reasons to do with aging and a need to take things a bit easier for a while for their overall health and well-being! You cant flog a dead horse ! let it go out to pasture for a while !You cant flog a dead horse Where not all studs !

What a moronic and idiotic last post we had from individual.

Individual is 100% brainwashed, and wrote a while ago on another thread "what promises has Abbott broken?". Disciple Individual believes every lie his God, ToneLIAR, tells him. He's utterly brainwashed.

Nhoj,
Ok then why not tell us why the ALP Government didn't do all these things Shorten said he could ?

Mikk, come on now, be faur about this, you forgot one thing there,that is that many also line up at the pokies and just can't seem to waste their pension fast enough.

Even at $30 a pop for a pack of fags is something they could think twice about.

My elderly mum, lives on her own, on the single pension AND SAVES FIOR HOLIDAYS. Admittedly she doesn't drink, doesn't smoke and her idea of gambling is a one dollar ticket in the Melbourne cup sweep at the bowls club.

Living is oit about how much money one gets, it's about how much they spend wisely.

Nhoj as usual you show your true colors.

How typical of a labor government in opposition to rubbish the budget without providing one single alternative. It is also typical of your type to conveniently ignore the fact that the debt we owe is due to your governments incompetence and mismanagement.

He spoke about reforms like Gonski and NDIS as if they were policies labor introduced and Abbott is taking away., yet, as you are fully aware, when labor left office they were, and still to this day, remain unfunded labor dreams.

trapdiocan, as well all know that people live longer today, do you still think they should still retire at 65?

Now remembering that today, people on average commence paid work latter, yet live well beyond the age of 55, which was the life expectancy when the pension was introduced.

He's a simple sum for all to consider, and in fact, it's even worse than I thought.

Life expectancy was 55,retirement age was 65, and is now 85. This means today we live 54.5% longer than back then.

So, if you take today's LE age of 85 and apply a 54.5% increase, 131 is the age we should be entitled to the pension.

Now consider that many of today's workers draw welfare along the way and this amplifies the situation.

And you lot are complaining about 70! Get a grip!

The word of today is SUSTANINABILLITY.