You wrote:

<< You cannot seem to get it into your head that these events are destructive of GDP >>

You keep saying this, and I keep agreeing. When have I not agreed with this?

The underlying issue here is that economic growth generated by the recovery effort gets added to GDP when it absolutely shouldn’t, because it is simply taking us from a degraded position back to a neutral position. It is not taking us forward economically. But GDP indicates that it IS doing precisely this, as all contributions to it are treated equally - as though they are good positive economic growth that is good for the country, and is improving our economy and standard of living.

Surely this is not too difficult for you to understand Pericles?

I’m a huge Andy Williams fan.

To dream the impossible dream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbDDE1Y0FZY

Well... Tony and Joe are making some badly needed refinements to our budgetary status.

That's got to be a good thing, although I would certainly not be in favour of some of the things they are slashing.

But by far their biggest fault is their complete lack of any mention or even a passing thought for the role that immigration plays in this issue.

Abbott said tonight words to the effect: we are spending big on infrastructure, and don't we ever need it.

Well, it would be nice if he told us why we need it. That is: what generates the demand for ever-more infrastructure, and why we haven't kept up with it, despite us always having put a massive effort into building this infrastructure.

Yes... it is very much connected to our massive immigration rate.

Massive numbers of new residents requires massive infrastructure spending.

We are paying through the nose to set up massive numbers of new residents!

In this time of budgetary problems, if not crisis, we absolutely need to slash the immigration rate.

That single move would be as big as everything else put together in terms of cuts and new taxes.

Ahhhh poor old Ludwig, he ALWAYS manages to blame his dreaded *MIGRANTS*, regardless of the subject matter.

His fear and hatred of migration is a result of ideological brainwashing that he's accepted without question. Dogma gone crazy.

Thankfully, he's a part of a very tiny minority of uneducated Australians who are filled with such fear and hate. Ludwig is not a racist, and his reasons for his anti migrant stance are not race/culture .... *BUT* .... Ludwig still stands with these racists as a brother in arms against migration. Their reasons are different, but their hatred and fear is the same.

That explains everything, Ludwig.

>>I’m a huge Andy Williams fan.<<

'Nuff said.

(Incidentally, for the record, simply repeating the same rubbish over and over is never going to improve its credibility)

I'm a huge Andy Williams fan
I'm a huge Andy Williams fan
I'm a huge Andy Williams fan
I'm a huge Andy Williams fan
I'm a huge Andy Williams fan
I'm a huge Andy Williams fan

Hey Pericles, you're correct.

Haaaaa hahahaaaa!

Pericles, you’re the funniest bugger on OLO.

Apparently in mentioning Andy Williams, I gave you the perfect opportunity to side-step our debate and opt out of the discussion!!

That is weeeird!!

But funny!

Haaahahahaaa!

Well… if that’s what works for you, then so be it.

But from my position, it amounts a complete cop-out.

I put to you a very discrete point in my last post, which you would have addressed if you could have. You simply can’t, because you know I am right on that particular point.

And the same applies for the whole subject. You’re off the rails with it.

Oh well… til next time… toodles.

PS. I’m sure you’re chuffed to have Nhojjie supporting you! Haaa ahahahaa ( :>)