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A hypothetical election
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Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 9:03:14 AM
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Survive without mining you say 579, are you serious'
Ok, so let's take a good look at where we are, now, and in the short to medium term future. We have manufacturing, retial, tourism, hospitality, government services (including health and education) mining, transport and logistics, private business and agriculture. Manufacturing, struggling now and soon face a train wreck with car industry and associated business closures. could loose up to 50,000 jobs. No real way back either. Retail, another industry on it's knees. A combination of out of control costs, online business and domination from the big two. Hospitality, suffering badly from penalty rates and while the likes of coffee sales might be up, profits are what pays the bills, not sales. I think you will see some changes to this award in the not too distant future. Gov services, yes well, it's the usual see saw whereby labor creates jobs for the boys then the libs have to make the tough choices and wind back spending of money we don't have. Of cause they get ridiculed for that. Mining, well we all know what's happening there. Transport, it's about to get hit with the carbon tax, the tax that charges us, while the rest of the world continues to pollute. Private business, yes well, costs are the issue there and, as the rest of the economy declines, the spending money they rely on will also dry up somewhat. Then there's farming. This industry are price takers and, thanks to madam Julia, the cattle industry has not recovered from her minute of fame. You see things from a receivers side, not a creators side and that's the primary difference. Paul, wouldn't it be nice if the proceeds from these minerals we have were accumulating funds for future generations and the retirement of current. Instead, we now rely on them just to pay the bills. Too many noses in the trough. Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 9:08:10 AM
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Future generations have 97 billion $ in the futures fund. Mining is best left at the present rate without wild swings. Tony is cutting your red tape, which you want but still winge. Have you ever thought some of your businesses are over represented. Abbott has put on 1700 public servants in six months. You can't blame the consumer for everything, all of those things you talk about, without people with expendable money at hand can only be bad for business.
Business can't thrive unhindered and uncontrolled at the expense of the consumers. Posted by 579, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 9:27:02 AM
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Paul, Howard himself was considered bynmany as a joke when he first became PM, then he grew into the position and gained the trust of the people, then ended up as one of our best ever, so give Abbott a chance he may do similar.
Pairot, so I'm guessing you think there's plenty of money and nothing to worry about. So, if that is the case, why then did labor leave the likes of the NDIS and Gonski unfunded? 579, tell me of any sector that is booming and has a bright future? I. Note that nobody yet has made any suggestion as to what they would change, or where the money would come from for any suggested changes. Why? Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 3:08:47 PM
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Is it necessary to have a particular sector booming, doesn't that show there is an imbalance, so prepare for a bust. As the latest mining boom did was thieve labour from stable companies and send them to the wall.
Now those workers have drifted back, and find themselves facing an unemployment boom that is guaranteed,and that makes it makes it all the harder for them to resettle. And all this happening in our most productive state. I think you are blaming the short comings of newman on the rest of au. Your fanaticism of mining has warped your idea of what constitutes a healthy state. There is no fracking fracking going on here. We run a stable economy no matter who is in charge Posted by 579, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 3:46:54 PM
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rehctub,
"So, if that is the case, why then did labor leave the likes of the NDIS and Gonski unfunded?" They didn't...unless you believe dodgy Joe and Co. http://www.jennymacklin.net.au/media/abbott-must-stop-hockey-getting-his-hands-on-the-n/ "I. Note that nobody yet has made any suggestion as to what they would change, or where the money would come from for any suggested changes. Why?" But dear rehctub, this govt spins "so many" lies and sprinkles so many distractions that it's a little difficult to keep up with their spin. Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 4:51:24 PM
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Abbott was considered a joke during the Howard years, To be considered a joke in a Howard Government, is akin to being considered a fool by the Marx Brothers. Abbott has one saving grace, he does make Groucho Marx look rather serious and believable. Its a pity he doesn't imitate Harpo and keep his trap shut, then even better he could do a Gummo and never be seen at all!
At least Turnbull had some intelligence, something totally lacking in Abbott, they say he is a "Rhodes Scholar" can anyone confirm that the Mad Monk did in fact graduate from the Benny Roads School of Correspondence?