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Union lunacy at it again

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I am going on record to say unless children are put back down the mines at fourpence halfpenny a day, Gina Rhinoceros is in danger of losing money, and no fair dinkum, dinky di, true blue, Vegemite eating Aussie would want that! Gina losing money, that is, not the children in the mines. Its enough to drive a bloke to throw away his Rolf Harris record collection! and how un-Australian would that be.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 24 March 2014 8:54:42 PM
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Paul, it's a shame you see this as an amusing subject, but, as a unionist yourself, you just don't see both sides of the story, do you.

In fact, if your mates do ge there way, the ones who will loose out will be our youth. As if youth unemployment isn't a problem already.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 3:23:36 PM
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Paul 1405,
You obviously haven't a clue about running an enterprise so that you can make sufficient profits to pay an employee. It's so easy for leftie public servants to down the private sector in such an ignorant fashion. The private sector has to perform. If you're still out of your depth then google the word perfom. It means pulling your weight, be of benefit to others, produce something of value etc.
The private sector earns their money unlike the excessively handsome donations our bureaucrats receive.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 7:24:28 PM
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"Well, I will go n record now as saying if the adult wage limit is lowered to 28 or less, it will cost youth jobs."

Butch, my flippancy was in response to your above. "28" that must be a typo! I thought, which you never corrected, but then judging by your posts on workers and your open hostility to a paltry 37c/hr pay increase for some of the poorest paid. I thought you may now be angling for NO FULL PAY unless you have 10 years adult experience.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 7:56:06 PM
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Paul1405,
I work with people who are nearing retiring age & they have never pulled their weight yet they get full very good wages. I know young people who wouldn't earn a sandwich's worth a day if pays were performance based. I know others who are consciencous enough to deserve more than what they get.
This idiotic notion of set high wages is what's bringing the economy of this country to its knees. You mention the poorest paid. I ask why do we have poorly paid in the first place ?
Again because of the idiotic structure we have. Those who work get the least & those who maggot & manipulate extract the most to the point of criminal.
If people want more they need to perform more not just automatically "be there". There must be a reward for effort otherwise there's no point don't you think ? Reward for just being there is harming everything to do with society as we will see if this Lunacy continues.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 5:33:29 AM
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Indi,

Obviously, you are in another country The Deep North, because none of what you say applies to Australia. Firstly the Australian economy is not on its knees, far from it, it is on of the best performing economies in the world.
Without directly saying so, it would seem you support some kind of totally unrestricted labour market, where there is no place for worker collectives like unions, no controls through arbitration or conciliation no place for collective agreements such as awards etc. In this world of yours, you invoke the notions of the nineteenth century 'Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism' by Max Weber. You latch on to the simplistic noble belief that left to its own devices, without restriction, the market will miraculously create an environment where there is total reward for effort. I suppose in a utopian ideal world that would happen, but unfortunately we do not live in such a world. In the real world things are somewhat different and we have a need in the labour market for forced controls, and unions play a very important part in obtaining reasonable outcomes for one section of the market, their membership and by default all workers.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 7:21:37 AM
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