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The Forum > General Discussion > The Qantas dilemma we are the guilty ones.

The Qantas dilemma we are the guilty ones.

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Indiv said:
I think this is way beyond Abbott & Rudd My suspicion is with the
shareholder & tax writing off system

Certainly neither the Rudd, Gillard or Abbott governments are to blame
for QANTAS's troubles, the shareholders and board should understand
what cost situations they face and adjust the company to fit. Certainly
the carbon tax at $106,000,000 is a very large slice of their costs.
Both Virgin and QANTAS should have added the tax onto every fare and
mark it as the tax.

The problem is both airlines are aiming for increased passengers and
their outstanding aircraft orders was an indications of what they
thought the future held for them. Of course reality has now hit them
and they have been cancelling orders.

Downsizing is a new experience for them and it has to include all employees.
It is also a new experience for the unions and the politicians.

Brent Oil price $115, TAPIS oil price $126.
Welcome to the post peak oil world !
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 8:24:22 AM
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...How does Rudd fit into the equation

Simple Paul, because he, along with Gillard were the ones who took a well oiled machine (Australia) and set the wheels in motion for where we are headed today.

Further proof of this is in the revelation that the jobs labor claimed to have created, were in fact, bought. Either that, or they were imported.

Now that there is no money left to continue buying jobs, Abbott is left to sought out the mess. I know you can't see this, but it's fact.

You see the labor/greens model is to protect wages and conditions, regardless of the circumstances and regardless of the needs of the employer.

As for the carbon tax, despite the fact that I am opposed to it, it should have been paid by the consumer on every front, with the exception of exporters.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 9:24:09 AM
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exception of exporters
rehctub,
Why an exception ? What is it with some people who can not accept a level playing field i.e. the same tax rate for everyone full stop.
You make a Dollar you pay so much tax. What is unfair about that ? No wonder we can never find a solution if there's always one lot who wants to be treated differently.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 6:06:20 PM
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For how long will the conservatives keep blaming Labor. The fact is the economy is in worse shape today than when Abbott took over, and it looks like we are in for a nose dive very shortly. What is your Messiah's plan, fall over, and blame it all on Labor? Cold comfort for the masses that would be. They must have something better in mind, or do they? I'm just asking the questions, those who voted for the Wombles should have the answers. Otherwise you wouldn't have voted for them, or would you?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 7:43:22 PM
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Paul1405 after reading all these posts and reading the news i've come to conclusion its all a game. What do all the big industries have in common. they are unionized. So Mr Abbott and Mr Hockey must be killing themselves laughing atm. How do we take down the Labour Party base. WE DO NOTHING.To bad it kills the country and WE have 1000's unemployed. Liberal wins next 20 years unopposed . By then all our children should all know Chinese so they can beg for our bowl of rice the employer throws them before back down the coal mine.
Posted by Aussieboy, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 8:06:02 PM
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Aussieboy,
Yep, all thanks to Labor.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 6:21:53 AM
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