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ABC and freedom of the Press

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Belly,

You obviously support those unions because their political bias concurs with your own.

However, in our Australian democracy citizens have a right enshrined in law to know who is behind the advertising. What you see as chummy union activism to overthrow of a government, even though you do not live in the subject State, others will see as grubby political interests with something to hide who are breaking the law of the land.

The unions or whoever is behind the political activism are thumbing their noses at the Department of Justice and Attorney-General, who are representing the people of Queensland. They have contempt for the law and for democracy.

Is that what you want? Do you want secrecy in political lobbying, in political donations, in electoral advertising, and in advertising generally? Do you favour union leaders who have such contempt for their members that thy refuse to consult with them, even where the law demands that they do?

It is interesting but entirely predictable that the Greens are keeping a low profile on this. But then there have been allegations for years concerning the links between the Greens and a secret squirrel anti-gun site which does not allow membership and hides its backers and a US billionaire currency dealer who nearly sent the Bank of England broke, which would have lost the life savings of thousands of small investors.

The public abhor secret interference in Australian domestic politics. It is the very antithesis of democracy. Citizens have a right to know who is behind it.

As well, these unions are hiding information from their own members and refusing to consult with them. That is something the federal Royal Commission into the union corruption would likely be coming up with as a finding on the prevailing corruption: that the unions concerned hid information from members and did not see themselves as answerable to their members - nor to the law for that matter.

These are the same old problems evidencing all of the time: unaccountable union heavies doing what they like with members' money and union policy.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 2 March 2014 11:34:16 AM
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Thanks Foxy I have a wish for this great site too.
I hope we can get many new posters who bring many great subjects we can dig in to.
Too that we all can contain our own words and thoughts towards others, but understand for some it seems other needs exist.
We can all do better and if that is all we ever do, trying to be better is a worth while thing to do.

I remain honestly and with no room for doubt,in fear the real damage to our country a harnessed and controlled ABC would do.
Some may find it a steep hill to climb but it remains true 32 percent at the extreme least vote ALP and think much as we do.
Some seem to think only their thoughts and views are valid, this is a sign they not us, must confront the real world.
Current polling highlights many are more than unhappy at the recent elections results and even NSW after gut wrenching problems, currently prefers and ALP government.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 March 2014 11:40:47 AM
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Dear Belly,

I find it very interesting that the same people who
rant and rave about the "accountability" of the ABC
are also the same ones who rant and rave against the
accountability of the current government being held
to account. These are individuals who get upset daily
over many small things and they have a one response
perspectuive on life. In an age where information ic
crucial we need good, vigilant and ethical journalism
and a national broadcaster that does give us access to
information so that the electorate can make informed
decisions. That is part and parcel of the democratic
process - unlike those who believe that secrecy, and
misinformation is the way to gain and retain office.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 March 2014 12:52:21 PM
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cont'd ...

The current government obviously believes that
everyone else should be held to account, except for
them. That to me smacks of a dictatorship and makes
our democratic system a total sham. Access to information
is one of the pre-requisites of a democracy.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 March 2014 12:56:36 PM
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Foxy while I am restless at the speed of change within the ALP.
And dirty on some of our actions,
I feel quietly joy filled at the direction of the Liberals.
Nation wide in every parliament they have miss read their support numbers and too support for some truly weird policy's they own.
Labor has assisted them to gain governments by its own stale acts.
But just think, after our impending caning in Tasmania, then South Australia, our worst will be behind us, for decades.
Here you will see why I scream for a reality check, from all sections of my party.
Most share my views but think it betrayal to say so.
I see that, blocking true accountability and party reform, as betrayal.
Even now we stand to win Victoria, go very close if not win NSW and shake the west Australian government.
The future looks great, and just as our own goals bough Abbott and his state governments in to power.
We stand to get the same benefits out of complacency from them.
Imagine! if we can reform too what sweet victory's await us.
ABC on election night,as good as test cricket!
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 March 2014 4:21:34 PM
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Dear Belly,

It will be interesting to see what voters decide
in a few years time that's for sure. As I've
said previously - voter support is ever fragile
and re-election is never a foregone conclusion.
However having responsible reporting would also
be a big bonus to the electorate and keeping the
ABC would be a step in the right direction.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 March 2014 4:47:08 PM
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