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ABC and freedom of the Press

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Foxy, what a shocker from Abbott, not only were the words out of sync with his lips on the video, BUT they were also out of sync with his brain!

SM in a recent SMH survey on the question of ABC political bias it went 31/59 No! So the statement from you;
"no denying that a significant number consider it (ABC) to be biased towards a labor / greens agenda."
31%, minus any who may think the ABC is bias in favor of the Coalition, or the Tooth Fairy or someone else. Significant? Then what do you make of the 59%, overwhelming?
On the question of who has the more balanced news ABC 67%, Commercial TV 15%, would you class that as astronomical verses pathetic?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/investigate-claims-of-burns-say-voters-20140217-32wfv.html

Maybe you can dig up a survey of your own, done by News Corp of the opinions of Murdoch's editors. I am sure that would give a vastly different result.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:06:25 AM
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A bit rich there Beach! What about my questions on another thread;

"I did ask this question of you previously, which you never answered. Was that Andrew Middleton asking the Fabian question, the same Andrew Middleton who ran for a lunatic fringe party in the federal election of 2010? Got about 500 votes."

p/s I did give you an answer to your question previously.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:14:35 AM
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Dear Paul,

Talking about being accountable to the voters.
The current government no doubt holds not only
the ABC but the Fairfax Media as subversive and
a "security risk." Why doesn't Mr Abbott make
substantial savings by simply abolishing the
judicial system. After all he's declared he knowns
who behaved appropriately. Either that or Mr Abbott
could be honest and tells us he doesn't want any
investigative journalism by anyone unless its into
unions or Labor.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 10:40:54 AM
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Paul1405,

Since you claim to have already provided a business case for continued funding for the ABC you might humour me by copying it and pasting it here.

Otherwise that is just more of your frivolous, time-wasting game playing in lieu of engaging with the subject.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 11:08:05 AM
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Foxy a truth not to be ignored.
Yes Abbott is doing very badly.
But too we must confront the other truth Shorten is doing worse.
His hide the truth policy damages us and him.
We have ZERO right to highlight others faults if we hide our own.

In truth, full of hope after he took over /if you insist won the leadership I looked for the Brilliant man he once was.
And found reason to be concerned from his first week in the job.
He has the ability but has he the will? to reform Labor.
Reform and thrive do not and we die.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 12:39:39 PM
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Foxy,

I apologise for using terms that you can't comprehend.

A "public good" is defined as:

An item whose consumption is not decided by the individual consumer but by the society as a whole, and which is financed by taxation.
A public good (or service) may be consumed without reducing the amount available for others, and cannot be withheld from those who do not pay for it. Public goods (and services) include economic statistics and other information, law enforcement, national defense, parks, and other things for the use and benefit of all. No market exists for such goods, and they are provided to everyone by governments.

In simplistic terms a public good is something that improves the general well being of the public as a whole, and is provided by the government as there is no financial incentive for private enterprise to provide.

As 90% or so of the ABC programming competes directly with private programming, not only is it costing taxpayers to run, but it is reducing taxes and jobs in the private sector.

Paul,

To further your poor understanding of English, significant does not mean a majority rather "sufficiently great or important to be worthy of attention"

The SMH survey to which you refer points out that 31% of those surveyed feel that the ABC is biased, and of those nearly all feel that they are biased against the coalition. If the 31% was close to evenly split, the claims of ABC bias could be dismissed. This is far from the case.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 1:17:51 PM
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