Does anyone out there know exactly what Germaine Greer actually does? Or is she just a feminist dinosaur?

Germaine Greer, Deborah doesnt DO anything as far as I can see...she puts her turkey face on the telly every so often just so the rest of us remembers just who she is, and this latest thing with Steve Irwin is the way she draws attentiobn to herself...she courts controversy..

She would go to the opening of a tin of sardines if she tought there was any publicity in it..

Shes just a feminist dinosaur...feminism is not an issue these days, not the way it used to be, and consequently..neither is she..

She needs a good man I think..wink wink.:)

Paris Hilton and those of her ilk are more or less young Germaines...These pple have a talent for sniffing out publicity opportunities...this is what makes them public figures..nothing else.

ha ha OZGIRL, that is what I have said about her as well "I think she needs a good *&%!!

lol....well said

Well Deborah58 and OZGIRL,

I don't profess to know everything about Germaine Greer (nor do I agree with everything she says, although she was pretty spot on about the crocodile man), but I would hazard a guess that she has made a much greater intellectual contribution to the world than you two little foul mouths.

Why don't you read The Female Eunich? Why don't you have a think about the changes that came out of the feminist movement that wouldn't have occurred without people like her?

Of course, that might be stretching your little bimbo brains a wee bit too much.

Grow up.

The feminist movement did more harm than good TAO and my ditzy lil brain actually knows this as I am doing gender studies as part of my degree in Sociology...and if she lays claim to being even partly responsible for that then she has a lot to answer for..shes contemptible.So if you know nothing please feel free to say nout.

And I still believe she needs a good man ,wink wink:)..read into that what what you will and judging by your term 'foul mouth' it must mean your interpretation of my words means you have a foul mind TAO.

She was not 'spot on' about Steve Irwin..she knew nothing of him or the Female Eunach..

Actually,

I agree that the feminist movement has a lot to answer for in that it subverted the revolutionary movement of the masses.

However, I suggest that you revise your view that by studying gender studies as part of a Sociology degree you are now the font of all knowledge.

You are being taught by the same bourgeious academic milleu of which Germaine was, and probably still is, a part - although it is probably much less radical and daring.

And don't try to blame me for reading small minded filth into your posts - it is there for all to see.

As I said, Greer has probably made a much greater intellectual contribution to the world than either of you, and the only thing you can do is make smutty personal remarks. I hope this is not the standard of your academic endeavours.

Tao, firstly the posts you read were between me and OZGIRL. I fully believe that you agree with Greer. I have nothing against the rights of females, I just find Greer to be a loudmouth and very outdated. The rights of females are in place now and I believe Greer has nothing more to add. What she said about Steve Irwin was out of place and if you believe that she was right in what she said then maybe you need to "Grow up".

Who died and made you the moderator? Maybe you need a good &%$*. Now run away and keep your nose out of posts that really were none of your business anyway. Yes I did ask what Greer actually did, I did not ask you to moderate my posts.

Deborah58

Since when did posting on a public forum become a private conversation?

If you choose to make inane comments, expect to be criticized.

If you can’t objectively see any validity in Greer’s comments then you are obviously the type of person that gets completely swept up in media hype. I guess this is true given the other thread you started about Lebanese people. Why should anyone bother to take you seriously?

If you want to know what Germaine Greer does now, well for one thing, she writes social commentaries in newspapers - which is more than we can say about you, given the level of intellectual insight you display. She is actually quite an accomplished writer. When you write a sensible critique (rather than simplistic slurs on her character) of her ideas, then let us know, I'm sure we'd love to read it.

By the way, the fact that you lower yourself to making comments about people’s sexual lives (including mine) in order to make your point, without a serious attempt to debate the actual issues reveals more about you than it does about me.

You are an angry person Tao, with a little too much to say. I didnt say that the forum was a personal meeting place. I said that whatever ozgirl and I said to each other had nothing to do with you. The mere fact that you even bothered to answer tells me that you are nothing but a trouble maker. Oh and by the way you have no idea what I do with my time, so dont tell me that I do not offer anything to the world. Idiot

Oh poor Deborah58,

There was nothing in your posts that said they were directed to anyone specifically. Your argument simply doesn’t hold any water. You chose to put your so-called ideas out there, deal with the consequences like a grown up. You are posting on an open forum so anyone has a right to make a comment.

You obviously see no problem dishing out criticism, but can’t handle it yourself. When someone doesn’t go along with you, or happens to reveal your own foolishness to you (as Greer obviously did), you attempt to trivialize and smear them, thereby avoiding dealing directly with what they are saying.

I never said you don’t offer anything to the world, however we can all see what you do spend your time doing - starting snearing little threads about others. Maybe you'll get your mind out of the gutter before you start the next one.

Ciao

Steady on girls. The worst things about Germaine Greer is that, when she 'burnt her bra' as most of the liberationists did in her time, she wasn't wearing it.

I normally don't agree with tao on much, but you other two are a comedy act. Obviously, not everyone out there is going to agree with Greer, but it seems bizarre to me in this day and age that people (women especially) are suggesting that the root (hehe...arf...arf...haha) of every problem with anyone who disagrees with us is not enough sex, in which case there are obviously a lot of people here at OLO who are very undersexed since there's a lot of disagreement! What I want to know though, is whether there is a sliding scale where a minor disagreement could be remedied by a trip to first base. Oh, the wit! The insight! The comedy! Ba-doom-cha!

Shorbe.,. your wrong, it all comes back to sex in the end..didnt you know that?

Fighting over old vinegar tits Greer..what next..Powdered milk in those udders..

SAO..you need a good man wink,wink:)..So does Germaine..she needs a footy team.:)YAY!

Look Tarzan,er Tigger...I dont know how you can lower yourself to converse with the likes of me...truly..

You ARE an angry, bitter and bored woman, cruising forums looking to stir trouble..T R O L L >

HRT ANYONE?

How charming OZGIRL

I heard Germaine speak at Melb uni back in the days of the female eunuch on a number of occasions, didn't like her then or now. Neither did women I knew hack then at uni, she was a boring dyke who felt the world owed her a living. I think the media keep her around because she's a perfect example of what women's rights are not about. Her opinion of men and how she sees them and women associating with them, is why she's alone and unwelcome here in Australia.

What she said about Steve Irwin is typical of an ignorant malcontent. Having just watched the memorial for Steve, I find it exceptional the image he portrayed to the world. Those classing him as one who interfered with animals in the wild, should consider what he's given wildlife, the education of children and the worlds people. It will only be understood in years to come, when its realised the massive influence and exposure this county has got from his exceptional talent and example of a good bloke. His kids are a perfect example of his influence.

Germaine Greer will be only ever known as an ogre and false feminist prophet, who just spewed venom at everyone.

Alchemist..

I am 100% right behind you.

Steve Irwin was irrepaceable..I cried all the way thru his Memorial Service..Little Bindi was just so amazing brave and mature beyond her 8 yrs.
Steves legacy will be safe I believe..

My 13 yr old daughter has been undecided as to what she wants to do..she now says she wants to be a conservationist and plans to work at Australia Zoo..she has always loved and protected animals but now sees a focus for HER passion.

God gave us Steve and thank god for him.

Germaine who?

Last weekend I attended a charity ball for Giant Steps, a special school for autistic children where my son attends. Up for auction was a Steve Irwin shirt, donated by the great man specifically for this event. It sold for $10,000.

I wonder what Germaine Greer signed shirts sell for.

On the contrary, I think that you will find that Greer has had several men over her lifetime, as not all are frightened of her wit and insight.
I also think that she was correct in her comments about Irwin although she was too precipitate.
But surely everyone knows by now that Greer has never been politically correct, or tactful and I don't know why people are so shocked about what she says now.
The publicity though, is good for her profile as a writer as any publicity is good publicity. Personally, although she does make me cringe sometimes, I am glad that there is someone out there who has the guts to put into words what a lot of people think.

Tao, you bore me
Alchamist 100% agree

All I can say at least I have added a little colour to this forum and got all you goody two shoes to fire up a bit. Greer will never be right.

And you are right? I feel like I've wandered into the Twilight Zone and am in some kind of warped playground where whoever shouts the loudest and uses the most insults wins. Adult debate does not work like that.

Tao just for the record I didnt start the thread about Lebanese people for the hell of it - I actually heard it on the morning news and, gee sorry for asking about it.

Marilyn I never ever said I was right if you are referring to me. But you are correct in saying that "adult debate doesnt work like that". When was a forum right or wrong? I am not professing to know all that is why I asked the first question about Greer, I am sorry if it got people in a pickle that was not my intention. Also adults are expected to be able to quite safely make adult jokes (re: sex etc or lack of it) without getting all hoity toity about it, gee chill out. This confirms to me that the women (Greer)is pure evil and should have been burnt along with her bra. (Sorry if that offended anyone). Thanks also to those people who gave me some facts about her.

Deborah, I acknowledge your views but saying that a person is pure evil is worrying. If you said feminism was evil then you could research it and find information to support or challenge your assumption. However, from what I can gather you do not personally know Greer and a person is very different from the image that they portray. Let's all understand that if Greer should be villified it is for her image and if Irwin is revered it is for the image that he portrayed as nobody knows the real person behind the image except the person themselves. As for being adult enough to accept rude comments about a person's sexuality I would have thought that being an adult means that we accept a person's sexuality not measure them by it.

Marilyn I watch that women "Spit her venom" regarding Steve Irwin, if she can be that uncaring and that spitful then she (Greer) is "pure evil". Also I dont care what people do sexually, it was AN INNOCENT JOKE between TWO PEOPLE

Deborah, I am not trying to change your mind. Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's. My advice is to separate the image from the person. Greer was on a television show. She is a media personality. She has gained her notoriety from not being politically correct and by creating controversy. She has been doing it for many years and is very good at it. It is fascinating that she can still create the amount of vitriol that she has and proves that she is still very powerful. If she were not powerful, people would just be laughing her comments off but no, there is a lot of anger there.

'How Charming OZGIRL'..no problems Tazo...anything to charm you.

Deborah58..we should just ignore her.

Ill know better next time..1st time Ive come across her and hope its the last..and your completely right about the fact we can carry on a conversation without the insufferable rudeness of someone who has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

She was way out of line.

Did you see the Memorial Service Deborah?

Marilyn Germaine Sneers particular brand of feminism was devisive and
and evolutionarily backward, and now we are coming to reap the 'rewards' of her 'evolutionary' contribution to the breakdown of cohesiveness between the sexes.

She stripped and showed us all her feminine charms..yuk.. and now we have those who say what a respected genius she was to the womens revolution..she based her one 'book' on HUMPTY DUMPTY ill wager a bet..shes a fraud.

The REAL revolutionaries are women the world over who teach their sons and daughters that respect between men and women is of paramount importance, not hardline ballbreakers who villify men and have a penchant for control of men..they too will ultimately rebel..
Its all gotten too stupid..balance.

Well I can see this thread is going from strength to strength!

Come to think of it Tigger..I doubt any man in his right mind would be able to get excited over you let alone ...well you know...
your a little bit weird arent you?

to strength

Yep...seriuosly so.

Seriuosly?

I came in late on this thread - however if you are studying sociology Tao - you should know Greer wrote the Female Eunuch previous posts suggest you are ignorant of that fact - but hey! I might be wrong

And at the risk of becoming embroileld in a turgid debate on feminism - feminists fought for things women of today take for granted - I cant see how they have damaged the cause of women all that much - unless of course you see the only role for women as being domestic engineers.

And as for what she said about St Steve - sure it was a bitover the top - but he did badger quite few little critters just to entertain the viewers - so whats the harm in saying so

sneekeepete,

I think you have me confused with OZGIRL who is studying sociology and refers to Germaine Greer by the technical sociological term of "vinegar tits".

I tend to agree in general with with much of what you have said, but would be interested to debate the issue on its merits. However I don't think that is what this thread is all about.

Tao - I withdraw - un reservedly!

You are a waste of time upstart Tao, no-one wants to listen to your dribble.

OZGIRL,

Yes I did watch the memorial. What a gorgeous little girl is Bindi, she would melt the heart of anyone. Steve and Terri must be so proud of her. To be that mature beyond her years she must have a very stable and balanced home. My heart goes out to Terri. Now there is a strong women if I have ever seen one.

"You are a waste of time upstart Tao, no-one wants to listen to your dribble."

Nonsense. I, for one, find tao a reasonably intelligent and articulate poster here. I'm not saying this because I agree with tao on this or any other topic (in fact, more often than not, the two of us are quite at odds with one another) but because through this entire thread your responses to tao have been puerile and unconstructive.

Cornflower, your link doesn't appear to work, access denied.

Shorbe, I agree regarding Tao, It's important to listen to everyone, it gives you diversity of thought. You don't have to agree, its learning how others think and comparing it with your own, gaining a better understanding, that's important.

The women and men who've followed and supported Germane, all ended up in the public service or NGO administration. Considering most welfare agencies are run by these people, gives you an idea of where their hero has led them and the effect it's having. She did get a lot of people to read her book, including me. Had a lot of interviews and spoke at a lot of feminazi rallies. Most of the discussion from both sexes acknowledged the changes already in progress at the time, yet thought Germaine was too over the top.

In Germaines time, men were really happy the women in their lives were getting out of the rut, as we wanted partners in life, not separate lives. We'd seen our parents slaving, our fathers battered by war then battering their families. We didn't want any of that, so the first bay boomer's changed direction, they just didn't go shouting about it like the feminazi did.

However in all human endeavour, we will always has the zealous, thinking they're pushing us forward, whilst pushing us all down a hole. Equality in life, but not equal in everything, we are all different. I love the mental difference between man and women, its the most exciting thing there is in life. After all, its easy to live by ones self, or with those of the same sex. But to come to terms with another opposite soul in equal unity, and develop a unique link, sounds better than a life of me, my independence and I want it now.

tao, OZGIRL and Deborah58, why don't you all get together and give eachother a good old $%^&()&. Might ease the tension a little.

Good on you mintie whatever, you will get in to trouble over that comment they are all a little proper on this forum NOT

Examples of what a sell-out she really is. Her appearance on celebrity big brother, speaks for itself. That book of scantily clad pubescent boys she published. She pines for the 'pure beauty' of these lads. That's classic peadophilia psychology. Cant maintain a relationship with adults and pines for the'purity' of children. She cant deal with grown ups, intelligent men on equal terms so she pines for boys, the 'pure beautiful innocence' of boys. Subtext... before they become pig-dog-bastard meesogeenust men.

Greer recanted an essential tenet of her ideology when she went on the record that her greatest regret was not becoming a mother. She championed the idea that the family unit (and motherhood) was the primary micro-insitutiion of hegemoniacal, patriarchal oppression of women. Actually, marx said that, fems borrowed it.

Greer is a classic case of a third-rate pretender hactivist who rode the coat-tails of the true agitators of change, who were many decades before her... those who got the vote for women.

Greer is just a book writer, lecturer, general talking head. The world is full of those. The net gives us ineffectual blowhards a place to congregate and put on our greer hats.

Its hillarious that anyone can think REAL change is effected by verbalising ideas. Oppressed people know their experience, all the words in the world make no difference. l suspect that 60s feminism, like all other movements, was already happening in broader society, b4 the likes of greer came along and penned the ideas. These academics are always late on the scene. They observe a social phenomenon, explain it clearly and then people think they were actually responsible for it. Its like the idea that explorers discovered the new world... newsflash... it was already there.

Greers cloistered retreat behind sandstone walls of academia pretty much stand as proof positive of just how pointless she really is. Why actualy do anything about it when you can blow hard and 'raise awarness.' Talking about it is just a noisy way of doing nothing. 'Raising awareness'... pfft and LOL. Those who can do. Greer clearly aint one who can.

Those images transposed to a tamperers magazine... imagine. A fem does same, its 'artful commentary'. Media supported it. Small handful of older mums protested. Most women cant admit a problem with it. Tho they can when the roles are reversed. Speaks to the pervading maligancy.

Irwin diatribe = smoke screen for man bashing. Bad timing, low class (speaking ill of the dead), cowardly (cant defend himself).

Her diatribe is cultural cringe. Boring and tired topic. Cultural cringe is projection of personal insecurity. Insecure to get embarrassed at how someone elses behaviour and image impact self image/identity. Could have broached yawningly passe topic of her personal insecurity laden cultural cringe without the vilification.

Failing that she could take up buddhism, empty her head of her egocentric insecurities, learn tranquility and actually enjoy being alive.

Old grumpy men who do what she does just get dismissed as bitter, lonely old curmudgeonly haters, most vociferously by fems.

The way these people shoot themselves in the foot is high farce. Very entertaining.

Its time to stop pointing the bone and time to STAND IN FRONT of the MIRROR. May not like wot you see. You can start to acknowledge the truth. Start by cleaning your own backyards rather than telling the rest of us to do it for you.

To the question... what does greer do?
Nothing. She runs around saying 'look at me.'

Very frustrating for her. She's very intelligent and much of her commentary has merit (once you take out the ravenously mental stuff). Can see why she has given up and gotten angry, why she puts on an agitating front, winding up (mostly?) women. People wont take the responsibilty of real change seriously around gender, least of all women. Her blood boils, lashing out in her frustration. Spent too long in her head. Her intellect + few tking her seriously = self induced loopiness.

Sad. Has become a cariacture of herself. Sometimes wounder if her public face is a deliberate affectation. Getting into character, giving viewers what we want and taking her appearance fees.

Greer is a classic case of a third rate pretender hactivist who rode the coat-tails of the true agitators of change, who were many decades before her... those who got the vote for women.

Greer is just a book writer, lecturer, general talking head. The world is full of those, thankfully the net gives us ineffectual blowhards a place to congregate and put on our greer hats.

l think its hillarious that anyone can think REAL change is effected by verbalising ideas. Oppressed people know their experience, all the words in the world make no difference. l suspect that 60s feminism, like all other movements, was already happening in broader society, b4 the likes of greer came along and codified and penned the ideas. These academic types are always late on the scene. They observe a social phenomenon, explain it clearly and then people think they were actually responsible for it. Its like the idea that explorers discovered the new world... newsflash... it was already there.

Greers cloistered retreat behind sandstone walls of academia pretty much stand as proof positive of just how pointless she really is. Why actualy do anything about it when you can blow hard and 'raise awarness.' Talking about it is just a noisy way of doing nothing. 'Raising awareness'... pfft and LOL. Those who can do. Greer clearly aint one who can.

I take it trade that you are not fond of Ms. Greer. She is a poor excuse for a humman being.

ya think?

:)

trade215,

I thought your comments were interesting, but I'm not quite sure what it is that you think needs to be done. Please elaborate.

Tao, the answer’s in the wind ... if you cannot be still like a mountain nor flow like a great river, then why not try falling as the rain or wilting like a beautiful flower?

nice try tao.

lm chiming into a bit of gossip about a media actor, that's about it.

if you wanna start a discussion about solutions, go for it.

cheers.

Nice cop out trade215

Tao up to your old crap again shame shame shame.

Answering the question here Debs...she does nout...:)

Hello everyone, I have just joined this site.
Interestingly, this is the first forum I have looked at - So if you're still wondering what Germaine Greer actually does, regardelss of her comments and whether they were right or wrong, it is clear to me that she has managed to invoke some rather deep emotional responses from alot of people; some of whom probably didn't even know she existed prior to the Steve Irwin thing... very effective outcome for her. Imagine if the media possessed one iota of discretion and refrained from airing the comments at all?

Pallas

Pallas...my sentiments exactly and I did say as much somewhere on this forum..
They immediately attached 1900..numbers when her peice was aired asking us to comment and net themselves a tidy profit in the bargain..
The media outlets have all made a tidy profit out of Steves death and its rather sickening.

The amount of times Ive seen 1900 numbers shown on TV for veiwers to have 'their say' is nauseuting..They cant put up an 1800.. number I suppose.?

Germaine is Germaine and I guess we can take her leave her, but most seem to leave her.

tao,

you're welcome.

'mirror, mirror, on the wall...'