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ismise..IS IT FAIR THAT All smokers pay tax..same same
one in four only*..can 'get cancer'//3..OUT OF 4 simply cant get any*..cancer..ditto the cowards..one in 100 WILL Attack..someone..AT SOME TIME[And govt simply dont want them to havE GUNS[SO THEY USE KNIVEs..or rabbit punches..[or a Glass [look up glassings..its huge

the honest will still COP THE CURE JUST LIKE THE SMOKERS
[AND ALL THIS FUSS IS ABOUT 4 YEARS..EXTRA LIVING[YET IT raises billions[trillioMNS GLOBALY[MUCH LIKE THE WAR ON THE PLANT DEEMED A DRUG/BY LAWYER TRICK[Criminalizes 120,000 plus per year[mainly HARMLESS KIDS CAUGHT BY sniffer dogs doing illegal search.

ANYHOW FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE DOPERS [KIds]..then your guns..next your booze..your kids anD ITS TOO LATE TO COMPLAIn then[they will simply take your house like THEY DID MINE

ALL because police police policy..not real CRIME LORDS STEALING YOUR SAVINGS YOUR SUPER YOUR UTILITIES YOUR WAGE/YOUR GUNS..YOUR PEACE OF MIND..RABBIT PUNCHES..THAT KILL MAKE THE NEWS[YOU GOT A HIGHER CHANCE OF DYING BY SUIcide[20 vets per day.plUS MORE KIDS]..BUT ONE PUNCH..CAN KILL[OR RATHER THEir head busting open..by hitting the pavement]..CAN KILL..BUT THE COWARDS [rabbit]..PUNCH..Is the way of cowards..

jUST LIKE POLICING MORALS/or health laws as if real crime
police arnt interested in the real crime..just police revenue raising policy[BAH]..to fill private prison quotas.

One under god, why not annoy the dreadful 'revenue raisers' and give up smoking?
Then you won't need to pay those taxes...

Is mise, although I like my wine or gin and tonic, I agree with raising alcohol taxes.
Maybe it will lead to people drinking less because of the higher cost?
That can only be a good thing, surely?

Suse,

What will you say when they impose a tax on fat/butter/sugar etc., etc.?

Taxation as a social engineering tool is immoral.

If a product is proved to be harmful then curtail its use or ban it.

Is Mise, with alcohol being proven to be ok in small quantities for occasional use, it does not need to be banned.

No such assurance is given for smoking though...so I would support a total ban on smoking now.
Thankfully, far fewer people are smoking now, so the time to ban its sale is very close.

Suseonline, " I would support a total ban on smoking now"

Just leaving to one side your authoritarianism and disregard for others' rights, have you considered the unintended negative consequences of that?

For example, cutting out the legal supply of tobacco would deliver a superb business opportunity to the criminal gangs who are already trafficking tobacco, tobacco+MJ+other chemical mixes, and other drugs. It would also deny the government taxes, and the criminals gangs would take that as extra profits.

As the forum's most hysterical hoplophobe you would also be promoting the inevitable illegal gun possession and violence as drug gangs - including the OMGs that the Left and Greens are rather keen on protecting(?!)- extend their enforcement and drug territories to include the thousands of new illegal users.

I could go on to discuss some of the other serious downsides, such as drug gangs and OMGs having more contact with kids, but others might take that up.

Typically there is no reply from Suseonline when her prejudices are challenged with facts. Suseonline's proposed tobacco ban was just another of her frivolous drive bys, to sledge and annoy any smokers present.

I am not a smoker. However I can understand why some smoke where they have nags, busybodies and bullies in their lives to contend with. Australia now seems to have an abundance of people who spend their lives minding their neighbours' backyards for them. Interfering in citizens' lives is a preoccupation of the Statist 'Progressives', aka Fabian Socialists, aka International Socialists.

It is a bloody disgrace that the previous 'Progressive' Labor/Greens government BOASTED of enacting 500 new laws. That was their claimed 'production' and contribution to Australia! How the hell did everyone manage before? What was going on that suddenly Australian citizens required the State to enact 500 damned laws to control them? That is one hell of a lot of restrictions and bans, some of which were solely intended to restrict freedom of speech.