*JF AUS*

my view is that the ABC is an absolute joke. It is to me not a public broadcaster, but rather a guvment propaganda channel funded by the public and there is a distinct difference between the two.

That is not to say that it could not be good, as there is the occasional "nugger" amongst it all and clearly a depth of potential journalistic talent however ...

Seriously, you go from 21 to 24 and whether it is LateLine, 7:30 or otherwise, and all you find is the same handful of shallow crap going round and round and round.

As for the revelations of how much these chicken heads are being paid, one can only conclude that they are being over fed to keep them placid and compliant.

No, what needs to happen is that the ABC Board needs to be sacked in its entirety, change out the current head, reduce their wages and conditions by a half to a third, hire more staff, buy more equipment and do some serious journalism with a strong element of local content.

As for appropriate and balanced reporting re CO2, I recall meeting an interesting academic character whilst at the Human Rights conference in Geneva in 2000 who had done a thesis on the so called "Dumbing of America" effect.

Regrettabley, the media in Australia are a significant part of the delivery mechanism of something similar here.

Under pinning that of course are a class of "Dead Beats" (as Keating puts it)who neither wish to compete nor to be held to account.

DremOn,

While reading your post as above I noticed I was nodding in agreement to everything you say there.

The present situation is a pity because the ABC is in a position to encourage the spirit of the people to make the nation thrive.

ABC, Academic Bi-sexual Club.
Dream-on, you're so right with the same going round'n round. It's nauseating & on top of that you get those incessant promos. If that's the best they can do we're better off without them.

To my way of thinking, even a good thing (for want of another way to put it) can be bad if it is applied in the wrong way and or at the wrong time.

So, the carbon tax comes out as it has, the so called big polluters are required to pay it, but the loop that was not closed in this equation allows them to pass it on to a consumer base who is already overly financially stressed, due in no small part to the insanely hyper inflated property market.

And of course, for the carbon tax to achieve its goals and bring about a situation where it is cheaper to buy green energy by making dirty coal energy more expensive it needs to go further up and up an up.

Thus, even if for a moment we consider that the carbon tax is well intended, when you apply it in the economy as it is, it becomes a very bad thing.

Thus, to make it a good thing would require making a whole range of additional economic adjustments such that those already doing it hard are not made to do it harder.

Here again though, if we were to just say, no more coal and it stays in the ground, what would be the social cost of this?

No doubt, bankruptcy through loss of employment, loss of home and perhaps in the stress family break down etc thus the Greens really need to address the antecedents to this problem by identifying in explicit detail how people can be migrated off to new employment in explicit detail so the electorate have a clear choice.

Then, as climate change and global warming start to take an ever increasing toll, more and more people will gravitate of their own volition to their side.

However, it may be already be too late for them in which case they can expect to be relegated to a small niche party of little significance, evidencing the fact that the carbon tax in its current form was always meant to be a "poison chalice."

DreamOn,

What if CO2 is not the cause of warming of the oceans and climate change?
What if unprecedented sewage and land use nutrient pollution is proliferating increased algae plant matter that is absorbing extra solar energy/warmth?

How is it possible that AGW and Kyoto and IPCC science has not measured and assessed photosynthesis-linked warmth in ocean and lake algae plant matter but has measured and assessed plant matter in animal cud?

What if it is the logical thing, that place where all our warmth comes from, the sun?

Haven't you read anything about what has been going on in the sun for a few years now.

I guess those who only get their news from the ABC, & lefty publications wouldn't know, those publications avoid anything that might not be CO2, unless it's methane.