Belly if you have known about the importance of Govt owned banks for 40 yrs,why did your unions allow the sale of all our State Govt Banks and the Commonwealth? These sales totally enslaved us economically.

Arjay it is comments like that that separates us.
Do you understand Unions if they wished just do not have that power.
And mate come on! do you think I controlled Union thoughts and actions.
I stood my ground on many issues, including blockading NSW Labor Government trying to stop cuts to compo , we lost, radical unions had members they put in place walk past the blockade to vote against us.
We you Me any one putting a thought so few want to listen to/believe need to not undermine our own message with things like your post.
One man can not beheld to account for not being able to control every one.
You by your words prove that truth can be buried in a jungle of confusion and thought leading away from the truth.

Belly the Unions back then were the backbone of Labor and Labor was responsible for the total sell off of the Commonwealth Bank. They had a big say and should have made a public stand.

Sorry Arjay you are making claims, actually ones I see no wrong done, that I or any single unionist help a power we never had.
Freeing up our banks worked in favor of this country.
And our banks are far from the privately owned ones America has.
We can throw words back and fourth but in the long run *IS AMERICAN BANKS* had been run like ours I doubt the GFC would have been so harsh.
Can you give this a few minutes thought? we started out agreeing about the *coming world financial crisis*
Even on its unavoidable impacts on us all but.
As America faces its debt and understands the Fed Reserve is not theirs but a rich mans toy.
And ended up covering the issue in our private barely related home made spiders web of issues.

13 questions..about problems
wounded constitutionalism..

much/depend on financial/feasibility
ie money..[the tool..of enslavement]

money..is a construct..by decree[fiat/means decree]
who decrees..it..as a unit..of exchange..[for govt debt..ie govt]

its money..ONLY by govt decree..but inthe constitution
the ONLY LAW-FULL/TENDER..is COIN*[silver or gold COIN]

paper money..isnt LAWFULL/tender..[they are federal reseve
issued PROMISE notes..for small change exchange[ie coin]..or goods

so keep all you ready money..ONLY in..coin
thelie is that paper..is money..it only remains money.
.while you will give..value for it..but its purely..for business
[so govt can make money..by lending govt its fiat paper[unconstituted money..as if value]..

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OUG I disagree, you will know as you watch the Fed Reserve that England once saw a King authorize the use of sticks with cuts in them *as legal tender*, true look it up.
Now Australia can not be compared with America as our banking system is quit different.
I can not believe arjay put a spoke in his own threads wheel.
He did so by blaming me, a proud unionist till death, and my movement for selling the commonwealth bank.
Now in truth both sides of the house look back on the combined freeing up/changes to our banks as a good thing.
And until some one can give evidence it greatly harmed us I stick to my thoughts.
IF ONLY! Unions had the power some think!
Right now under Abbott or Shorten they have little.
However having been taken to the wood shed by[ surely a Mason!] for naming them untrusted worthy I think if it has to be secret it is to be ignored by honest men, any secret group has my disdain.
We are not a Socialist country, yet we subsidize much.
Keeping the bank not collecting it sale prise would have stalled needed things