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Go too far lose your car

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ITS ABOUT INTUIMINDATION

let the punishment fit the crime?
no..the theory..is a watched plot never boils

govt dont like people..talking..why?

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/10/29/surveillance-is-for-peons/

if the/state can organize effective and prolonged violence against dissent, it spawns reactive revolutionary violence, or what the state calls terrorism. Violent revolutions usually give rise to revolutionaries as ruthless as their adversaries. “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster,” Friedrich Nietzsche wrote. “And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”

Violent revolutions are always tragic. I, and many other activists, seek to keep our uprising nonviolent. We seek to spare the country the savagery of domestic violence by both the state and its opponents. There is no guarantee that we will succeed, especially with the corporate state controlling a vast internal security apparatus and militarized police forces. But we must try.

Corporations, freed from all laws, government regulations and internal constraints, are stealing as much as they can, as fast as they can, on the way down. The managers of corporations no longer care about the effects of their pillage. Many expect the systems they are looting to fall apart. They are blinded by personal greed and hubris. They believe their obscene wealth can buy them security and protection. They should have spent a little less time studying management in business school and a little more time studying human nature and human history. They are digging their own graves.

Our shift to corporate totalitarianism, like the shift to all forms of totalitarianism, is incremental. Totalitarian systems ebb and flow, sometimes taking one step back before taking two steps forward, as they erode democratic liberalism.

This process is now complete. The “consent of the governed” is a cruel joke. Barack Obama cannot defy corporate power any more than George W. Bush or Bill Clinton could.
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/10/30/229339-our-invisible-revolution/

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/10/29/federal-agents-reportedly-raid-reporters-home-in-search-of-illegal-weapons-and-allegedly-question-her-about-prior-negative-stores-and-seize-unrelated-government-documents-and-journalistic-notes/

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/10/30/facebook-considers-vast-increase-in-data-collection/

jfk..wanted simply to take back the fed
http://www.rense.com/general76/jfkvs.htm
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 3 November 2013 8:41:15 AM
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Poor old Coppers, however in is a fact it is very hard to gain a conviction when in the end it is your word against theirs [the other driver].
Imposable if after making your complaint you do not want to go to court.
However Cops have brand new ways to convict, in NSW without rego stickers we get scanned to see if it is not registed and if the driver is disqualified.
In car cameras, not just police but increasing in private cars are good evidence.
Victorian Police, soon in every state now patrol parking lots impounding cares that have unpaid fines for drivers and owners.
Rest mate, in time we all will make the opposite claims about police.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 3 November 2013 11:16:42 AM
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Like I said, Ludwig, I wouldn't encourage them.

It appears that already Queensland is morphing into a cosy police state.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/queensland-magistrate-hits-out-at-police-state-as-man-held-nine-hours-for-littering/story-fnihsrf2-1226751984446

"A MAGISTRATE has questioned "what this state has come to'' after a young man who dropped a tissue in a mall at 1am was held in the police watchhouse for nine hours.

"I'm appalled that this young man is in custody,'' Brisbane magistrate Chris Callaghan said yesterday, after hearing how long Michael Pennisi, 21, had been held without bail.

"Is this what this state has come to? This is all coming down from the top, it appears to me.'"

"Pennisi said outside court he had not even realised a tissue had dropped from his back pocket as he withdrew his ­wallet. He said as the female council officer, with two police, began to issue a $220 fine he refused to give her his details."

Gawd!.....
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 3 November 2013 12:54:21 PM
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Yes Poirot, it is awful what happened to that young guy, but I think the main problem would have been the refusal to give his details to the police, rather than dropping the tissue.

Maybe He was asking for trouble by being belligerent to the police, rather than calmly explaining his case.
Aggression towards police gets you put in jail!
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 3 November 2013 1:18:13 PM
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Come off it, Suse,

""Pennisi said outside court he had not even realised a tissue had dropped from his back pocket as he withdrew his ­wallet. He said as the female council officer, with two police, began to issue a $220 fine he refused to give her his details.

I made the biggest mistake walking away and when the police said 'Come back' I ran,'' Pennisi said. "Then I realised I'd made a huge mistake and gave up the run.''

The young man, who has just graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce from University of Queensland, said he'd had four drinks before the incident.

Today he flies to London to take up a new job."

Hardly being aggressive.

(Uncooperative, perhaps)

Police state....watch it unfold.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 3 November 2013 1:34:56 PM
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Hey Luddy, where are you getting all this tailgating, you get so upset about? I used to regularly drive from the Whitsundays to Townsville airport & back, without anyone tailgating me. Probably because they couldn't catch me I suppose in retrospect.

I did get quite a few things getting very close when I first put my Triumph TR8 back on the road. I think it was more people trying to figure out what it was than anything else, & stopped when the car stopped being a novelty locally. Otherwise it is just not a problem around here.

I used to get trail backs behind me when towing a horse float, so I would pull over each time it got to about 4 or 5 cars. I did not want to blaze a trail of ill will against horse people, & stopping was not hard.

I do find it a little frustrating that many drivers travel at 20Km/H or more under the legal speed on the main road, then speed in the 60 areas, but I am not about to let them spoil my day, so basically ignore them.

I do find it best to avoid leaving town for my 28Km drive home at school out time. Too many of the school run drivers do so in a most distracted way, making it a bad time to be on the road.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 3 November 2013 1:55:35 PM
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