Numbul Davis, welcome to the forum. That post of yours above will draw some fire from the usual suspects. I noticed you posted "dem dar fighten words" around 1pm. for the next few hours the conserve mob will be having their daily nanna nap down at the aged care facility where they all reside. Come later, and after an invigorating game of parcheesi they will take turns on sisters puter and give you some hollie dollie. They normally leave me alone as most of them have come to love and respect my opinions.
Post what you want go for it!

Paul1405. Thanks for the heads up. I think robust debate is healthy and necessary for democracy. I doubt very much if there is a single person whom every person agrees with. I have no problems with alternative views to mine. While i accept diversity in opinions it is within the boundaries of civil dialogue that i do this.

I think robust debate is healthy and necessary for democracy.
Numbul Davis,
Would it not be better then to post this in a democratic country instead of here ?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/minnows-threaten-senate-havoc-20131024-2w4dv.html
This being the only active thread on politics I think this deserves a look.
I hope with every inch of my being Labor joins with the mad hatter Abbott,to forever end the abuse of the Senate.
And the open wound insult it is to by far most Australian Voters.

Surely Pascoe's analogy is inaccurate...

"A caterpillar emerging from its cocoon as a butterfly has nothing on the metamorphosis of Joe Hockey..."

My observation is that we find only one stage in the life cycle of politicians?

As a grub.

I believe you, Belly...

"I hope with every inch of my being Labor joins with the mad hatter Abbott,to forever end the abuse of the Senate."

But seeing as how the method of election hasn't changed in over sixty years and that the majors have held combined majorities throughout that time and not changed anything.

You shouldn't get your hopes up anytime soon.

Grubs, the lot of them. But I can sympathise with those who think not all grubs are the same.