The victory speech by Tony Abbott was probably one of the worst that I have listened to by a prime minister elect in this country. It is a strong hint that his support will be quickly eroded. I would have thought that instead of saying that " it was the worst result for the labour party in a 100 years" ( made even worst by a loud comment in the background of "losers"). A really good leader would have said something positive along the lines " This is the coalition's best result in very long time". Rubbing salt into the drubbing that the labour party got will not endear him to the electorate, but worst it demonstrates a lack of respect for his political opponents. It was in strong contrast to the comments by Rudd when he conceded defeat, which did not denigrate the coalition in any way.

As matter of interest Abbot and the coalition have managed some sort of record by breaking a promise before they even got elected. That is that they would provide their costing in plenty of time before the election.

If as I expect, that this will only be the first of a long list of promises, that Abbott and the coalition break with some sort of excuse along the lines of ah-but, I can see a new nickname for our prime minister Phony Ah-but.

Abbotts Election Speech?

The really nice thing about the children on OLO is that they have nothing to offer other than an extension of the KRudd mantra that we have as a Nation, just rejected.

Since there is nothing else on offer I’ve decided to post this response against the last three threads that have emerged today. The nice thing about ideological predictability and groupthink is that the same response always applies.

They fail to recognize that the majority of Australians have just demonstrated via the ballot box, that they don’t share their adopted views. Suddenly democracy is no longer valid if it doesn’t fit.

Tough titties children, night night and sleep tight.

Oh come on Warmy, how could anything compare with that ridiculous grab for attention that was the Rudd concession speech.

Naturally I turned to something else the moment Rudd came on as usual, while spoil a pleasant night? However, after switching back about 4 times to find the disgusting rant still in progress I switched off. However I had heard enough to know that was the most disgusting display by anyone, winner or loser ever.

To say you people are unbelievable is putting it very mildly. Time for shame & a bit of quiet from you.

I have to admit that I somehow expected a bit more
in Mr Abbott's victory speech. Here he was - finally
getting what he wanted after so many years. And
I guess I felt that his speech would match his
combative style, have a bit of nouse, instead it
lacked-lustre, like his recent campaign style.

Where was the Abbott of old? Perhaps it was the suit,
white shirt, and blue tie, - and change of image to
"Mr Nice," that finally got to him? Toned down Tony
may be here for a while.

On the other hand:

Mr Rudd's speech was as we've come to expect -
true to form, over the top, and no acceptance of any
sort of responsibility for his actions . No recognition
that the worthy reforms of Labor were overshadowed by
the bitter leadership rivalries between himself and
Julia Gillard - and for which Mr Rudd must carry some
blame.

What happens next?
Remains to be seen.
The Senate results will be interesting.

Neither Abbot or Rudd are inspiring speech makers.
One can hardly speak at all and the other speaks too much.
Speech making aside, from a personality point of view they are possibly the most uninspiring leaders we have ever had to choose from.
Labor deserved to lose but I am none too sure the Coalition deserved to win.
The best of a bad lot I would say. We shall see.

SD

Does leftie academic jealousy know no bounds at all ? I only hope that your attitude & mentality will get it's just reward over the next few years & hopefully its vile vindictiveness will dig its own grave before too long.

I thought it was a good speech, and I am a humanities student

Chris,

I am not too sure whether a humanities student would be more qualified to identify a good/bad speech from any other individual.
The quality of the speech would only be the opinion of the recipient(s) no matter who or what their qualifications may be.
I have no opinion as to the speech in question as I did not listen to it, I tend to avoid most political speeches.

SD

No more qualified than anyone, just responding to individual's reference to academics.

But I did liked speech, others may have hated it.

Chris,

My apologies if I misunderstood the intent of your post.

SD

I didn't mind it at all. Bit of larrikin humour at the start, actually from both of them, but I think people expecting him to completely turn off the attack dog mentality in the space of a few hours shows a lack of understanding of what makes the man tick.

I have voiced the option on this forum many times that I do not think the Australian people have gotten an election result wrong in a very long period. Time will tell if Prime minister Abbott will can fashion a decent government from a victory not so much based on his party's policies but by playing some very brutal and negative politics. I'm hopeful but feel it may be a coin toss, although one gets a very really sense he wants to create his own legacy and it is pretty hard to do that in a term.

What I am most excited about is what he will make of indigenous affairs. Perhaps his insights will set a new and empathetic path although LNP ideology may well taint efforts in the sector.

His stage is set. Let the first act begin.

warmair

Abbott's comment was a fact, unlike Rudd's unstatesmanlike dig at Bill Glasson. You've really got things back the front.

I know lefties hate the truth, but it's tough luck.

And please don't make us laugh with the idea of Labor supporters being concerned about governments either telling the truth or their managing their finances properly. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Obviously any supporter of Labor actively supports blatant lies, fraud on a massive scale, and incompetence from government. You have no ground whatsoever to criticize any government ever again, since your entire philosophy is nothing but that government should have unlimited power to do to its subject whatever it wants. Labor - the party of fraudulent totalitarianism.

Abbott's speech was a bit too gloating for me,
I hope he is a bit more humble in future public talks.

I was just pleased he didn't have his wife and daughters draped around him again...it was becoming nauseatingly apparent that he wanted to play the game of 'Look, aren't I a great dad, and see all the women in my life, so I must love all women' .

I didn't vote for either of the major parties, and I'm glad I didn't.
I don't want to be part of the blame for what will happen from now on...

Chris lewis,
I don't know why you felt offended by my post which was was not aimed at you. I simply replied to the lousy mentality of the likes of warm air. If you are an academic then you'd be well advised not to identify as one as you surely would have to be aware of their mentality by now. Of course there is at least one good one in every hundred.

I don't want to be part of the blame for what will happen from now on...
Suseonline,
Do you have the integrity then to not gleefully accept any of the benefits coming your way from this Government ?

Individual, no offence taken.

Just letting you know that there is significant minority of humanities academics that take the art a bit more serious than playing partisan politics. I like to refer to myself as a student of politics, in any case.

Like I have said before, I have only voted against Labor twice at the federal level, but always seek to answer a research based on fair and balanced analysis based on the reality that both major parties have their strengths and weaknesses in line with voting patterns by the public.

Probably not a good career move, but I am proud of approval from another of Liberal politicians of my efforts since 2007 (including two PMs), as well as sticking to consistency with my own views and values.

I sincerely believe that Abbott has many of the ingredients to make a lead a good govt.

I really should do what is suggested and write first in Word to double check grammar and spelling.

Hope following clearer.

Individual, no offence taken.

Just letting you know that there are some humanities academics that take the art a bit more serious than playing partisan politics. I like to refer to myself as a student of politics, in any case.

Like I have said before, I have only voted against Labor twice at the federal level, but always seek to answer a research question based on fair and balanced analysis given the reality that both major parties have their strengths and weaknesses as recognised by changing public voting patterns.

Probably not a good career move, but I am proud of approval from a number of Liberal politicians of my efforts since 2007 (including by two PMs), while remaining true to my own views and values.

I sincerely believe that Abbott has many of the ingredients to make a good PM and lead a good govt.

Well I see the Abbott bashers are out early—Saturday night must have been rough for them,ay?

Warmair, being true to his calling …

Foxy, having put the handle "Lexi" back on the hook for later, sneakily trying to damn Abbott by association with Rudd.

Suzie-having-herself-on, still caught up in the Lab-Green big-bad-boogey-man-Tony hysteria:
“I don't want to be part of the blame for what will happen from now on...” LOL

Now, all we need is Poriot to poke her head through the door and give us some lame line about she being “all ready to give Tony the benefit of the doubt till she heard THAT SPEECH…”

SPQR, here you are again having a go at all and sundry without actually commenting on the subject.
I'm assuming you're happy Abbott is at the helm?
You sound like someone who would empathize with Abbott...

SPQR,

"Now, all we need is Poriot to poke her head through the door and give us some lame line about she being “all ready to give Tony the benefit of the doubt till she heard THAT SPEECH…”"

On the contrary....I expected "that speech"....the crowning glory of which, was Abbott attempting to come across as statesmanlike at the end, which "clanged" mightily!

I have never been "...all ready to give Tony the benefit of the doubt...". He's a mediocre pollie who has been elevated to the top spot courtesy of a regular injection of Murdoch rocket gas (perhaps by suppostitory?).....

That being said, here's a nice pic of Mr and Mrs Abbott:

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/09/07/1226714/076372-3e007bd4-16c6-11e3-af42-07bd3660d6b5.jpg

Gentlemen,

Some of you really need to at least
try to have intelligent, well reasoned
discussions. The nation has
made its decision - and what will be is yet to be
seen. We're simply discussing the impressions
that the two leaders speeches made on us.
The discussions are not meant as some sort of
an indictment on one or the other.

Picking on certain female posters with personal insults
for giving their opinions on both speeches
lowers the tone of this thread.
An attempt should at least be made - to try to keep
the discussion on an intelligent level.

Everyone seems to forget that THEY don't write their speechs. I personally know one of the speech writers for Howard and sometimes they just do a quick glance and memorize before delivering it. They pay speech writers handsomely to write the best 'copy' for them. Not every poli can write a speech, most of them have trouble putting 2 words together.

pepper,

".... most of them have trouble putting 2 words together."

Some more than others.....

: )

I didn't mind Abbott's speech even if there was no need to use it to attack the former government. However, being a good or bad orator does not really matter. Words without action and positive results are meaningless.

Much rather a bad orator who does good things than a good orator who can spin a yarn but doesn't follow through with competence or fairness.

And some of them, like the two we have just got rid of, could not put two words together, without one of them being a lie.

The late Bryce Courtenay summed things up
thus:

"Some words run softly almost soundlessly on tiptoe.
Others clump around like an under-nine football team
in a cement floor dressing shed.
Some soothe like cold cream on sunburn.
While others set your blood pounding and your heart
singing.
There are words so rounded at the edges and softened by
wear that they are no longer words at all, but the
sounds that people make for happiness or despair, joy
or anger.

There are words that are randy, but not dirty. And sacred
words that have become soiled with improper use.
Some words stick like burrs and punish at a touch.
And there are others that nurse the ego and heal the heart.
Some words remain unspoken, clamped in a throat that aches
to let them out. And sometimes they are the most meaningful
of all.

But words without a story are like a fart without a
smell, nice to have passed silently in a crowded lift,
but causing no reaction whatsoever, except as a relief to the
farter that he got clean away.

Let your ear be your dictionary, while your eye observes
the details and your mind constructs the storyline.

Each of us has been designed for one of two immrtal
functions, either as a storyteller or as a cross-legged
listener to tales of wonder, love and daring.
When we cease to tell or listen, then we no longer exist
as a people. Dead men tell no tales."

Interesting speech. I wonder who wrote it?

warmair, Abbott's comments about Labor were more accurate than saying the Coalition had a great result (they got lots more seats, not lots more votes).
Labor lost heaps of votes, but the Coalition's vote hardly budged.

Those lost votes went mostly to alternative parties, hence the strange results in the Senate.

Abbott talked about the nation (we), Rudd talked (forever) about his team (me).