Loudmouth, Thank you very much for that correction! That just goes to show I shouldn't try to be smart right before bed! Thank you thank you thank you. The worst part about that is that I know that, horrible slip of the mind.

Chrisgaff,

"Who the hell do you think pays your wages or your social security? The socialists?, The Greens, The unionists? No pal the money bagged capitalists of this world."

I think you'll find that it's the common indentured worker who funds all these goodies....and it's the money bag capitalist kings who got themselves nicely bailed out during the GFC by worker's taxes.

Not to mention Georgie Bush and Co funnelling taxpayers money into his wars and over to private "contractors" to hold up the circus tent.

Joe,
Notice you did not mention culture that is handed down to each generation, in your last post. Not all cultural aspects are good, like we generally seem to have developed a binge drinking culture in our youth which does not have good results.

I would like to see your comments on the points I raised in my first post here.

Hi Bec, yes, we all have those :)

Banjo, I don't carry any torch for 'culture', which seems to reflect the power-structure within a group, which usually means, male dominance, cloaked (after all, that's what 'culture' does) in obscurity, but there nevertheless.

' Cultures' change, usually with pressure from social and economic changes. Nick Cater writes very intelligently about the current transformation of what used to be called working-class culture, especially as they have occurred in Australia over the last fifty years.

So it has been for Aboriginal people across Australia - since the War, a massive shift from rural to urban environments, with roughly a quarter left behind (usually by choice) in rural and remote areas.

University participation is now around 65 - 70 % of that of non-Aboriginal Australians', about what on would expect from a class-oriented analysis. In fact, Indigenous women are commencing university study at a slightly higher rate than that of NON-Indigenous Australian men.

From barely three thousand university graduates back in 1990, there are now more than thirty three thousand Indigenous university graduates. Not too many victims there.

The great majority of Indigenous people are standing up and getting on with life. They may not forget the past, but they are not letting it hold them back either.

Joe
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And who paid for their education...Not them.. the taxpayer did and still does and they suck it up like ink on a blotter.
Can't you see that the Australian taxpayer is funding the very force that wants to destroy the hand that feeds them.
Most of these people are quarter and eighth caste with plenty just a splash of aboriginal heritage but they still claim the full rights of the full bloods.
We need to have a measure of blood to filter the hanger ons out

Hi Chris,

Any Australian who goes to university is funded, to one extent or another, by the taxpayer. Then, if they get a job, they pay it back in tax. I have no quarrels whatsoever with that.

The argument about part-this or -that has been around since the very earliest days. These days it may be getting a bit tenuous, and perhaps, as Noel Pearson and others have suggested, provision of services should be on the basis of need, not 'race' or place or culture or anything else.

Neither should such provision be endless, serial, going on forever on the grounds that the recipient is, after all, a victim.

So yes, services should be provided for all who need them, without any discrimination, and on the basis that they are not infinite, and that recipients owe society back. No free rides.

Joe
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