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The Forum > General Discussion > Can't blame Rudd for this idiotic agreement.

Can't blame Rudd for this idiotic agreement.

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Philip S,
I owe you a huge apology, I just realised that I totally misread your last few words in that particular post of yours.
Again, sincere apologies.
Posted by individual, Friday, 2 August 2013 7:17:42 PM
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individual - Okay, I have made mistakes like that before.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 2 August 2013 8:24:32 PM
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We're trying to stop irregular boat arrivals. A visa from an Australian embassies is necessary to arrive by air.

Should we stop study visas?

" ....the same macabre treatment for those who arrive by air as you do for those who arrive by sea"

Just to counter the usual hyperbole from Poirot, "macabre" = "disturbing because concerned with or causing a fear of death" http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/macabre?q=macabre So, boats will stop because of a fear of death? Death by what? Drownings haven't deterred them.

Boats will stop because settlement in PNG will cause a fear of not gaining Australian residency.

Anyway, just sayin', not entering into an argument of substance with a poster that ducks, dives, weaves and plays dead when on the losing end of one.
Posted by Luciferase, Saturday, 3 August 2013 12:05:55 PM
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Luciferase,

"Boats will stop because settlement in PNG will cause a fear of not gaining Australian residency."

Well they haven't stopped yet...

And it seems the government isn't expecting them to stop -

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-03/government-sets-aside-money-for-singleton-asylum-detention-cent/4862824

"The Federal Government has set aside tens of millions of dollars for a new immigration detention centre in the Hunter region of New South Wales.

The Government used yesterday's budget update to allocate $43 million for a new detention centre at Singleton."

It says the plan is to potentially house more than 1,000 asylum seekers at the Defence Force base there.

It has also allocated almost $90 million to eventually accommodate up to 1,000 people at Blaydin Point near Darwin."

Explain that?
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 3 August 2013 12:19:00 PM
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Use your own brain for obvious answers. I'm done with trying to help you out.
Posted by Luciferase, Saturday, 3 August 2013 12:22:36 PM
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Um...let me see....?

Why is the government earmarking funding for more mainland detention centres in Australia - if (according to you and the government) the Manus solution is supposedly going to "stop the boats"?

Nup...can't work that out at all.

Unless the Manus solution is merely an election gimmick - designed to steal the LNP's thunder on a hardline on asylum seekers.

Why would you earmark funding for detentions centres for refugees if the present "solution" is designed to "stop the boats".....and if you had faith that Manus could handle its mission?
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 3 August 2013 1:04:54 PM
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