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Latest polling shows Labor will SMASH the coalition in an election
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Posted by Belly, Sunday, 14 July 2013 5:36:14 AM
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Parrot,
Yes indeed, when confronted with trolls whose sole purpose is to make inflammatory statements then I use something simplistic to wind them up. Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 14 July 2013 6:56:41 AM
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Tony allowing Rudd to have the media floor to himself should not happen. It's a free kick and won't go unnoticed. This is a failing of the coalition, and a worrying trend. We went from miles in front to behind in a week, Rudd can work a media scrum, Tony needs to get with the game or the outcome may not be good. I am not sure about advertising what happened in the past, we are going to vote on the future. That is what the young people want. I suppose we have to stick with Tony now, any trouble or adverse talk and Rudd will bring on an election. Tony is partly to blame for the sudden change, hounding Gillard and promoting Rudd. IT's enough to make you want to vote for Ol Blue.
Posted by doog, Sunday, 14 July 2013 8:54:55 AM
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SM,
"Parrot, Yes indeed, when confronted with trolls whose sole purpose is to make inflammatory statements then I use something simplistic to wind them up." Not that you ever troll and make inflammatory statements.....No probs, it's what we're coming to expect from you in lieu of cogent argument. ......................... Btw, I have to wait a couple of hours to post this in the Abbott thread. About you telling me I'm the one telling porkies. It's no use trying to stonewall. That "personal blog" belongs to the journalist, Margot Kingston. The only reason that this matter was raised in MSM this week is because of her research into the matter of Slipper's and Abbott's expenses. She is the source of the story. Far from being her personal opinions, These are documented facts sourced through FOI and evidenced in letters to and from Slipper and Finance. http://nofibs.com.au/2013/07/04/a-familiar-afp-smell-over-slipper-and-ashby/ These letters are included in the link above. Look at the one from David Tune, of Finance, dated 17 June, 2012. It reads, "Prior to the AFP investigation, Finance had no concerns with your travel paid under entitlement on those days....To the extent that Finance has received any further information on those days, it would only be from assistance provided in response to AFP queries during the course of the AFP's investigation." What is it about actual letters from Finance to Slipper that you find hard to deal with? Don't fall back on the old line "It's only a personal blog." This blog contains factual documentation. Have you sourced any factual documentation that proves the contrary? (Will cut and paste this into other thread when I can post on it again) Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 14 July 2013 9:07:51 AM
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SM,
(From post on other thread) Btw, I have to wait a couple of hours to post this in the Abbott thread. About you telling me I'm the one telling porkies. It's no use trying to stonewall. That "personal blog" belongs to the journalist, Margot Kingston. The only reason that this matter was raised in MSM this week is because of her research into the matter of Slipper's and Abbott's expenses. She is the source of the story. Far from being her personal opinions, These are documented facts sourced through FOI and evidenced in letters to and from Slipper and Finance. http://nofibs.com.au/2013/07/04/a-familiar-afp-smell-over-slipper-and-ashby/ These letters are included in the link above. Look at the one from David Tune, of Finance, dated 17 June, 2012. It reads, "Prior to the AFP investigation, Finance had no concerns with your travel paid under entitlement on those days....To the extent that Finance has received any further information on those days, it would only be from assistance provided in response to AFP queries during the course of the AFP's investigation." What is it about actual letters from Finance to Slipper that you find hard to deal with? Don't fall back on the old line "It's only a personal blog." This blog contains factual documentation. Have you sourced any factual documentation that proves the contrary? ................... The upshot being that if Finance had "no concerns" with Slipper's travel on those days - why would they refer the "non-matter" to the AFP? (And that's in addition to your dismissal of Kingston's email reply from Finance) "Hi Margo, No, the Department of Finance and Deregulation did not refer this matter to the Australian Federal Police. The matter was separately referred to the Australian Federal Police by a third party. Regards, Tameena | Communications and Public Affairs" There appears to be proof that Finance "did not" refer Slipper to the AFP. You bleating the they "did" - is just you bleating that they did. Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 14 July 2013 10:06:44 AM
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doog, "Tony allowing Rudd to have the media floor to himself should not happen"
It is true that Kevin Rudd is a human headline. Always has been and he will never change. $Rudd is jet streams and posing abroad, throwing around taxpayers' money that should be going towards better purposes like hospitals. Most people have met self-promoting motormouths at work and in their personal lives. There is not much you can do with them but let them rave. Ultimately their chickens come home to roost. I have never met anyone who really likes anyone who is constantly in their face telling them how good s/he is. Rudd is patronising as all self-promoting people are. Here he is patting a disabled woman on the head before leaving for his luxury VIP jet, <Footage of Kevin Rudd patting the head of a disabled woman has left a disability advocate "shaking with rage". Comedian Stella Young, who is also a disability campaigner, says the prime minister's behaviour shows Australians have a long way to go to change patronising and disrespectful attitudes> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/07/10/15/13/head-patting-the-disabled-disrespectful Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 14 July 2013 11:23:17 AM
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There is the difference.
You can do much better, in reverting to bitter one liners in the fashion of another poster, your fear is seen.