Joe,

Well yes it is "all about me" finally realising what a pointless exercise it is to engage "you" in-depth and on subject.

Your style is interesting, however, when someone hits a target with you, and the "strategies" you produce to counter them.

I'm all for debating in a fair and honourable manner.

Come off the high horse Poirot I have never seen you debate a single point yet. Your bag is always like this last post, going for the person with posts totally devoid of facts.

Talk about practice what you preach.

I'm all for debating in a fair and honourable manner.
Poirot,
Good to see., when will you start doing that ?

Mind yer own beeswax, Hasbeen.

You would of course be favoured by some on OLO who espouse similar odium....I can understand why you would defend them.

Now back to subject......

Dear Poirot,

I apologise for whatever dreadful odium I have poured on you, it was all in a fit of rage at your superior discussing skills, and I promise never to do that again.

Now, can we get back to topic:

I am respectfully suggesting that there is a dire need in Indigenous discourse for some, perhaps minimal, attention to be paid to evidence, 'facts', what actually is the case, rather than rumour, hearsay and fabrication. This may require a thorough revision of their prejudices.

Take for example Deaths in custody. Currently, around 28 % of people in custody are Indigenous. Deaths in all forms of custody seem to be around 22 % Indigenous. Facts. Evidence.

i.e. much less than one would expect: one would expect 28 % of all deaths in custody to be Indigenous.

Three things:

(1) there shouldn't be anywhere near that proportion of people in custody who are Indigenous, since they make up only about 2.8 % of the total population.

(2) the suicide rate of Indigenous people OUTSIDE OF CUSTODY is far, far higher than the national average - in some remote settlements, it could be thirty times higher than the national average.

(3) On the whole, Aboriginal 'leaders' haven't got a clue what to do about it. So they tend to blame colonialism, which seemed to have impact on people in the remotest settlements, far more than on people in the cities, somehow: the more remote, the more colonialist impact. Yeah, right. Anyway, it's not their problem, they're Indigenous.

Individual would know far more about this than me. That's the beauty of OLO - the vast range of expertise of its contributors.

Evidence is a hard mistress, Poirot.

Cheers :)

Joe

Hey-de-ho, Loudmouth,

My son and I were doing a little study on early WA history this week, and we came upon something called the Pinjarra Massacre.

I haven't looked into it too far, but just came up with this:

http://www.pinjarramassacresite.com/content/witnesses/

Evidence - from Governor Stirling and others.