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The Forum > General Discussion > So if they won't allow the boats to be towed.....

So if they won't allow the boats to be towed.....

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There is I think another tactic that can be used.
A naval vessel cannot enter Indonesian waters without permission.
It needs the use of a civilian vessel to tow the boat back into
Indonesian waters.
Then cast them off just off the port.

The civilian vessel would need a crew of civilians also, perhaps
immigration officers would be civilians.
I am sure a crew of volunteers could be assembled.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 16 June 2013 8:20:50 AM
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Here we have the usual suspects with their simplistic 19th century "Fortress Australia" approach to foreign affairs. Their real agenda is no aid to the 3rd world what so ever, no aid to non whites. Wait for the howls of protest as I say, their protests are racially motivated, How do I know this? These so called concerned Australians never post a whimper of discontent towards the thousands of people, mostly white, who fly into Australia every year on 'holiday' visa's and overstay their welcome, where are the howls of indignation about these "illegals". What attitude would they take if Americans or British people required a safe haven in Australia, they would be dock side with a brass band and forming the welcoming committee.

"Paul please. Anyone who is old enough to post on the net is definitely too bloody old to talk such bull dust. If you want to talk to adults you have to talk like one."
Hasbeen with your child like simplisticism when it comes to complex matters of international foreign affairs, I question your understanding of adult concepts in relation to this issue.

To the usual suspects: Even your man Abbott when in power is not going to cut of aid to anyone in retaliation for failing to tow the
Australian line on this, so why not stop pissing in the wind and come up with some well thought out solutions to what is after all a difficult problem.
Maybe you have been fooled by the throw away one liner, "I'll turn the boats back!" that's a line for bottom feeders its not policy.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 16 June 2013 8:26:31 AM
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Paul seems to assume that we should just accept what Indonesia does
and be afraid to say boo to them.

Indonesia is allowing boatloads of undocumented persons to leave their
territory and head to Australia.
I cannot put my finger on which international law is involved but I bet
quids it is there. It certainly applies to aircraft and cruise liners.

Which leads to his point about visa overstayers, well they do get sent back !

Also his racially meant rant has it wrong again.
It is in fact religiously based, as it is the Islamists to which people are now objecting.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 16 June 2013 9:01:26 AM
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I shudder to think how many Paul1405's & Marilyn Sherperds' there are trying to help ruin Australia & destroying peoples' lives by pretending to help others. It also makes me shudder to think how many less off Australians could be helped with the resources we waste because of people like Paul & Marylin. What they advocate is nothing short of treason. On the other hand they're probably to stupid about what they're doing.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 16 June 2013 9:09:18 AM
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@ Poirot & Bugsy

Yes, you are absolutely right, Malaysia is no longer an aid recipient.But it was for a looooooog loooooong time, it has only recently graduated to the non-aid recipient class.

However –and, on a matter close to your hearts – it no doubts anticipates jumping back on that gravy train real soon when all the climate change packages, you both have been spruiking, get handed out.

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@Paul1405,
<< "Fortress Australia" approach to foreign affairs.>>
What, as opposed to your soup kitchen Australia approach!
If wanting to control who crosses our borders gives us a “fortress” mentality than most of the rest of the world share the same affliction –but I guess you hadn’t noticed that!

<< never post a whimper of discontent towards the thousands of people, mostly white, who fly into Australia every year on 'holiday' visa's and overstay their welcome, where are the howls of indignation about these "illegals".>>
They don’t have to raise a “whimper” because people like you invariable trumpet it each time illegal immigration is raised
And each time, you are told the reason.
But next time, right on queue, you are at it again.

So here it is one more time: the huuuuuuuuuuge majority of tourist visa over stayers invariable are rounded up and sent packing , or leave of their own accord -- never to be heard of again.

On the other hand, the huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge majority of your illegals , burn their IDs, boat in any old -time of the night or day, and get to stay indefinitely .
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 16 June 2013 9:22:36 AM
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The smugglers have had a free go for years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MHRSFz6FM
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 16 June 2013 10:37:13 AM
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