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individual - Generally they are for the study of the Islamic religion, they do also teach other subjects. I would class the private part as wrong in this instant they are located in villages and city's.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 25 April 2013 8:52:20 PM
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Squeers
So do you get the connection between what you're complaining about, and the fact that you support government control of education?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 26 April 2013 7:01:05 PM
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Jardine K. Jardine,
Yes, I think I get it.
Do you get the link between libertarianism and government guarantee?
One can support government control of education so long as it's answerable to what said education entails.
"Government" is an arbitrary term for centralised authority--hopefully with the mandate of the people.
Of course today there is not qualitative mandate, only quantitive, or at least that's what all governments presume.
The ideology of individualism is a nonsense, discredited in primitive times.
Your private pedagogues are preparing their acolytes for action in socialised economies, to find a living fleecing the great unwashed. I'm all for the privileged education of these brats if their intent is merely to go away and build their empires elsewhere. But there is no other game, in town or elsewhere, any more than there is for dissenters. But you have the running so stop your complaining.
There is government control of education, and then there are pirates, and pirates should be treated as outlaws.
If government was truly representative of the people their wouldn't be a problem, but it's only representative of elites. Liberal education is the great lie.
Posted by Squeers, Friday, 26 April 2013 8:04:18 PM
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"If government was truly representative of the people their wouldn't be a problem..."

There would still be the problem whether it is more representative of the people than the people are of themselves. You know, your right to make decisions for yourself rather than have someone else make them for you on the assumption that they know better?

"...but it's only representative of elites."

Well surprise surprise.

This is exactly what Austrian theory explains, predicts and expects, so I am consistent in criticising government control of education. Your own analysis of government agrees with mine - but not with your own unjustified assumptions that government is some kind of benevolent institution of social service.

Given that it's only representative of elites, what makes you think government control of education doesn't brainwash children into an uncritical acceptance of those elites as being somehow necessary and beneficial? Why should the elites get the assistance of a government monopoly at indoctrinating the entire population, all paid for by the taxpayers? The evaluational chaos and waste you describe is the least of the problem!

Indeed given that government is only representative of elites, the assumption underlying all Labor, and most Liberal policy, - that government is some kind of institution of social service - is exactly what we should expect children will be indoctrinated into believing under government control of education, isn't it?

Since your own views on government contradicts your own political leanings, what makes you think you haven't been brainwashed by government indoctrination?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 26 April 2013 10:12:26 PM
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<<Unlike Poirot's enlightened classroom>> [Squeers, Thursday, 25 April 2013 6:24:34 PM]

Ah-Hah! from the very first Squeerian dissertation I read I just knew its author had to have been an old boy of the Monty-Poirot School of Physical Culture.
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 27 April 2013 2:37:43 PM
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Jardine K. Jardine,
apologies for the delay responding, but our positions are fairly well canvassed on OLO.
I'm no fan of representative government precisely because it's not. However when you juxtapose the representation of individuals I find it just as problematic. There is an umbilical cord running between institutional life and individualism, and it's a blatant lie to insist the latter is not dependent for its bearings on the former. Representative government amounts to the surrender of democracy, but individualism is the surrender of civilisation, ergo I don't see government as "benevolent" etc., only as a necessary social mediator, be it for libertarians or socialists. Your individualism is just as dependent on the State to maintain order as socialists are on it to maintain equity.
No doubt you would prefer the law of the jungle, but the entrepreneur needs the rule of law, no?
Of course I agree that government control of education, as things stand, brainwashes children, and their parents (is this not implicit in my posts?); but the alternative is not private, intensive education (which also amounts to an exclusive, exploitative, or antisocial form of brainwashing and precipitation); rather, it is an improved social education that equips the acolyte for an involved and inclusive role in the politics of the nation and the distribution of its means of reproduction.
We are all brainwashed, initially or, sadly, in the long-term, and it is the proper business of a privileged Western life to disabuse oneself of it.
If the government brainwashed me to be critical.. It's too clever by half.
Posted by Squeers, Sunday, 28 April 2013 7:36:41 PM
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