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The Dalai Lama's Not Welcomed on Campus.
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Beach person, there is no Green's conspiracy here. The only conspirators are the 'hierakies' at Sydney University who fear allowing the Dalai Lama on site might upset the Chinese and could see the cash cut off, end of story! These people will sell out human rights for the proverbial 30 pieces of silver. I think they are hypocrites, nothing less.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 21 April 2013 6:43:28 PM
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Lexi, <1) Sydney university has gone to great lengths to
forbid the Institute for Democracy and Human Rights from using its logo, not allowing any media coverage of the event and disallowing Tibetan activists to attend the talk> Forbid?! Honestly now, you really are coming the raw prawn. What reputable organisation would allow anyone to use it logo? Outside of official purposes? The simple fact remains that prior approval was not obtained. Anyone coming onto university property and intending to use its facilities had better go through the proper channels and get the necessary proper approval. Insurance alone would require that and there is duty of care - protection of university assets, staff and students. Lexi, <2) They overturned the decision for the talk - to move the event off campus stating that no university staff member or academic was allowed to be involved in the event> NO. The proper approval was not sought and obtained in the first place. By what right or power did that student activist take it upon herself to take the decision out of the hands of the university administration? That is the whole problem with activists isn't it? They are long on what they claim as their 'rights', and they think that others should just concede to their wishes. They are not special. Apply for permission giving full details and adequate lead time for consideration and decision like anyone else. It is the NSW Greens stirring. What else do they do? PM Julia Gillard called the Greens out as a protest party, nothing more. She was right. Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 21 April 2013 7:02:15 PM
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I would like to Thank everyone who has
taken the time to contribute to this discussion. For me personally, it has been quite an experience, being a graduate of the university - and also having worked on campus - I am familiar with the politics that goes on there. It's been interesting to read not only the many media sources on the topic but also the comments found on the university's own Facebook site. This has ultimately been a worthwhile discussion. However, I think that it has now run its course. Dear Paul, Thanks for you attempts at reason. The Dalai Lama summed things up rather well: "The ultimate authority must always rest with the individual's own reason and critical analysis." See you on another discussion. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 22 April 2013 10:03:03 AM
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The reasonable act would have been to get prior approval from the university administration.
The university has said that was not done. Fair enough in a free, democratic society that believes that consent should always be obtained first. Typical of the totalitarian Greens to believe otherwise, that what they want must always prevail. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 April 2013 11:39:20 AM
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onthebeach,
Give it a rest old chap. The Institute did get the university's approval. Get your facts right. The university changed their minds. And now are trying to get out of it on a technicality - that they did not get an "official" request from the Dalai Lama. What a joke. Get rid of the Greens chip on your shoulder - if you want to be taken seriously - otherwise nobody will bother reading your posts in the future. You're coming across as somewhat of a fanatic. Try lifting the bar on your debates: "Two men look out through the same bars. One sees the mud, and one the stars." (Frederick Langbridge). Try looking up. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 22 April 2013 12:13:47 PM
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Lexi,
The university administration has said otherwise, as you are aware from the news link I posted earlier, <SYDNEY University says it never received an official request for the Dalai Lama to speak on campus, after being accused of withdrawing an invitation for political reasons. NSW Greens MP John Kaye says the Tibetan spiritual leader had agreed to speak at the prestigious uni during his visit to Sydney in June. .... Sydney University issued a statement on Thursday saying it never received any official request about the Dalai Lama. A university spokesman said representatives of the Dalai Lama's office in Australia approached a student about the possibility of arranging a lecture last year. It says staff discussed possible arrangements but the only time available was during uni holidays in June, when most students would not be on campus. "The Dalai Lama's office agreed to an alternative proposal for him to address a wider group of students from across a number of universities in the city, including from the University of Sydney," the statement said> http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/sydney-uni-denies-ditching-dalai-lama/story-e6frfku9-1226623175057 I am sure that if there was any documentation or record to prove otherwise the mendacious, frivolous, publicity-seeking Greens would be flourishing it about. BTW, the news article mentions the Greens in there with their wooden spoon. The stirrers that they are. Yet according to you anyone who mentions that is a 'fanatic'. Maybe you should review your own position. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 April 2013 12:25:05 PM
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