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Do Labor deliver value for money?

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My slant on this (ignoring the current mob) is that any party should be able to govern, that is not value for money. Value for money is that they not only govern but they improve the nation in some way.

In context the ALP fail both scores, they fail to govern and they fail to improve the nation. They have a big laundry list of policies they have even rejected themselves.

This government has a far bigger spending foot print but no real benefit I can see, so vale and the ALP are words that seem to have no association.

WRT the opposition .... hopefully they can at least govern and keep a lid on spending..... anything positive beyond that would be added value.
Posted by RightSaidFred, Thursday, 28 March 2013 2:36:01 PM
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The labor government is not perfect, that’s for sure, what choice do we have? Look at Queensland since the Liberal took over!Many jobs cuts and all in the most important department,health, education, now it look like Mr.Newman want to privatise the health system, Queenslander would be in the same position than people in the US,no private health insurance, no treatment! I am currently in Queensland to provide help and support to my daughter and grand son who is in the Royal Brisbane Hospital with cancer, after my arrival I had a terrible tooth ache and a very swollen face, I was refused emergency treatment because I was not a Queenslander (I hold an age pension card) it seem that Mr. Newman is trying to build an independent state within Australia with his own rules and laws).
It gives a taste of what’s to under the Liberal, especially under Mr. Abbott who can't be trusted, he is never willing to say what his future government plans are, his comments are “all will be revelled in good time”! then it will be too late for the majority of Australian people.The Liberal want to keep the rich richer and the poor poorer, we paid to much taxes, if the big companies were paying there fare share things could changes. To get rich you need workers, if you look after your workers your company will flourish but when enough is enough the people fight back and you have strikes with lots of working days lost this equal lost of money for the rich.

It is time for them to remember we are in the 21st century not in medieval time. Yes the Labor party is not perfect but as much as it can it protects the workers and this is the majority of the population.

Who to vote for at the next election? Good question as we do not have much choice, Labor or Liberal? Forget the green and there hidden agenda, maybe it is where we should use the old say “BETTER THE DEVIL YOU KNOW THAN THE ONE YOU DON’T”
Posted by moucheninette, Thursday, 28 March 2013 3:48:53 PM
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moucheninette you ain't seen nothing yet, when it comes to cuts to the Public service.

Whether it be Newman, or someone else, we need to reduce the bureaucracy by at least another 35% in Queensland. The only question is, will we do it very soon, or will the international monetary fund force us to do it in another few years.

Nationally it is more like 45% that we need to shed.

The latest figure I saw was 45% now work for government, or collect welfare from it. That's nearly one each to keep. How many are you paying for mate.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 28 March 2013 4:36:27 PM
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dear hasbeen,
I do agree there is to many public servant, but no government want to cut where it is needed. Sadly it is always the same who are cut out and they are the one we do need the most, POLICE, HEALTH AND EDUCATION.Until government decide to cut on useless bureaucracies it will not achieve any thing excepted hurting the majority of the population and the other one will keep there cushioned job, paid high wages and doing very little.
We do need doctors, our children need teacher and sadly we need police to keep bad guys off the street,
Posted by moucheninette, Thursday, 28 March 2013 8:41:53 PM
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moucheninette, sadly, many have the opinion, 'it's my given right' to expect that everything treatment wise is free.

Well, let's go back twenty plus years and see why what should now be free to all, is no longer affordable.

During this period I have lost count of how many times the suggestion of work for the dole has been raised, only to be squashed, repeatedly by do-gooders.

We have also seen a few generations, who prior were unaffordable, but thanks to welfare, could now be affordable, cause someone else pays the bill, even when some of the parents refussed to work and were rewarded for it.

We saw the introduction of means testing, whereby those who contributed the most, were rewarded the least, so those who contributed less, received more. Back to front thinking if ever I saw it.

So the flip side of this saw many wealthy people find ways to minimize contributions(tax), so the candel started burning from both ends. Less revenue, more hand outs.

We have seen attempt after attempt to help indigenous communities lift themselves from the gutter, at a cost of billions and an apology, with the end result being that most people generally accept that this crowd ( and Im generalizing) are beyond help and we simply accept that they won't change. Their unemployment is not counted in our stats.

Continued
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 29 March 2013 11:52:41 AM
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Continued by Rehctub
In recent times we have seen the worst government in history waste billions, on failure after failure, at a time when tax revenues have been in decline, further amplifying the waste, as the are less chances of replacing what's been wasted.

And of cause, there is the illegals debacle, again courtiousy of this imcompitent government, something that has the potential to break this nation.

You know it's a sad state when of the hundred odd thousand homeless, not one arrived illegally on a boat, or that while the illegals enjoy these tax payer funded benefits, our own pensioners often choose between the TV or the fan, as they can't afford both.

So the decline of affordable health care started twenty years ago, and failed policies, from both sides have caused this mess.

Picture us in another twenty years if little changes, but only if you're game.

Now can anyone tell me why they would risk voting for labor again, other than using Blimd instinct.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 29 March 2013 11:59:32 AM
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