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Julie Bishop accuses car companies of speeding fatalities

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& here we have one of rehctub Law Abiding Drivers.

200km/h in 50km/h zone: police officer charged

DateMarch 8, 2013 - 3:37PM David McCowen "The Age"
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 8 March 2013 7:30:19 PM
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Rehcub, there is really very little variation within one’s speedometer between new and old tyres.

Practically all speedos read a bit faster than the true speed

I always have my GPS on while driving, which gives a more accurate reading of the speed that I am doing than the speedometer! And as a result of this I am intimately familiar with the error in my speedo at all speeds.

If the alleged offender challenges the accusation that they were speeding up behind and then tailgating someone who was sitting on the speed limit, after seeing a vid that shows them and shows the speedo in the car of the complainant, then they'd be unlikely to question it, I would think.

If they did, it would be a pretty simple thing for the police to calibrate that particular speedo.

So, camcorder evidence of a speeding vehicle coming up behind you while you are sitting on the speed limit, including views of your speedometer, should definitely comprise good hard evidence that would hold up in court, if need be.

Any difficulties in empowering the public to record evidence and lodge complaints about sh!t-headed drivers are much smaller than those involved with technological approaches of the sorts that Producer desires.

And they could surely be overcome in a much shorter timeframe... and at vastly less expense.
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 8 March 2013 8:15:46 PM
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Sheesh, I PARTICULARLY hate it when you proof-read, spell-check, grammar-check and the proof-read.... and then proof-read again..............................................................................

And then post...........

And discover that the name of the person you are responding to has been wankified!! !!

Aaaarrrgh!!
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 8 March 2013 8:25:13 PM
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Luddy old mate, unless you are one of these damn fools who drive around at 70Km/H in 80 & 100 limit areas, I can't understand your problem with tailgaters. In my area where it can be many kilometers between legal overtaking opportunities, I believe this sort of discourtesy should result in loss of licence. Fortunately it is rare.

I can not find any pleasure in driving a few Km/H more above the speed limit, so don't do it, but I also rarely dawdle, & thus cause offense to people who's lives are busier than mine. I can't remember when I was last tailgated.

When I was towing one of my kids show jumpers around, who was a bad traveler, I often drove considerably under the speed limit. In that circumstance I never found it difficult to pull over & let faster traffic through.

I did at one time find truck drivers regularly getting a bit close behind me. I realised I had not reinstalled the Triumph badge on the back, after a repaint job on my old TR. Once this was corrected, the problem stopped. They were only trying to find out what the car was.

Thus I find your your constant reference to tailgating rather strange.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 8 March 2013 9:13:31 PM
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Ok Ludwig, so what speed do the police charge the offending driver with, remembering, that simply speeding is not acceptable as evidence.

The prosecuting officer could hardly say, the offender was doing more than the speed limit, but not really sure how fast they were traveling.

It would be laughed out of court, don't you think.

BTW, calibrating is performed before the device is used, not after.

...& here we have one of rehctub Law Abiding Drivers.
So how is this my fault JAyb

Also, 100 in a 40 zone is far more dangerous than 150 on the open highway.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 8 March 2013 9:15:54 PM
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Rehctub, I disagree that such calibrated evidence is an essential prerequisite for the police to act on a complaint or for conviction to be achieved.

The police can charge people if they think they have committed an offence and the courts can convict people if the magistrate is satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that an offence has been committed.

Two main points:

Road safety could be vastly improved if the general public was empowered to help, and the police facilitated it fully, by telling us how to gather evidence and make complaints in the most effective manner and…

This could be done a million times more quickly and easily than the implementation of speed-limiting technology and other road-safety technological advances.

Again… and I can’t say this often enough or emphatically enough…. I couldn’t be more disgusted with the general attitude of the police towards my efforts to make a few complaints over the years about rank drivers. And I only ever made complaints about the very worst stuff that I was subjected to.
Posted by Ludwig, Saturday, 9 March 2013 8:29:04 AM
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