Katie,

Your Rudd tinted glasses forgets that Carr's posting as foreign minister started with a series of blunders, but has improved as he has ceased doing anything of value.

His premiere ship presided over the collapse of manufacturing, the halving of growth during the boom years, and the establishment of a culture of graft, ings, the Obeids, paying for ministerial meetings etc. Public private partnerships became a swear word, and who can forget the desalination stuff up.

Carr simply had the nous to abandon ship before the poo hit the fan.

As for Wong, her contribution to any interview or debate is to simply reel off the labor talking points. I have yet to hear her utter one original thought.

Bazz, I think it may be YOU that is very one-eyed. BTW, you continue to misspell "Labor" as "Labour" - perhaps you should have stayed in school, pet! Also, Shadow Minister, once again you make presumptions - I didn't particularly like Kevin Rudd and never voted for him. Many people have a short memory: Rudd was thrown out because he was a little tantrum throwing autocrat with delusions of grandeur (much like Howard) whose system of leadership was "My Way or the Highway". Of course, noone in recent times will be judged as badly as John Howard who lied, lied, lied and sacrificed thousands of lives in an evil and useless war in Iraq! He, the monster George Bush and Blair should go down in the annals of history as war criminals.

Katie, when I went to school the teachers could spell.
Now, well I guess your teachers are like you and cannot spell.
They are now trying to do something about those entering the profession
because they have been taught by the teachers that cannot spell.
It is of course not just spelling but everything else.

One eyed, oh yes you could not even resist inserting into this;

delusions of grandeur (much like Howard) whose system of leadership

Frankly you are pathetic.

Bazz,

Sorry if this is a tad pedantic...(slow Saturday:)

The Labor Party in Australia is spelled "L-a-b-o-r" as in no "u".

The Labour Party in Britain is spelled "La-b-o-u-r".

So although he word "labour" is spelled as such normally in Australia and Britain - our Labor Party doesn't do that.

Bazz, I guess you call anyone "pathetic" who doesn't share your narrow, pathetic outlook on life. It looks like I am not the only one to pick up your lack of literacy skills. In any case, most intelligent people don't persevere arguing with a moron (like you); you're likely to wear us down with experience! One thing one-eyed Liberals DO excel in is mediocrity. Loser!

The Australian Labor Party chose its unique spelling of the word because its leaders were convinced that the people who voted for them couldn't spell. If they stood apart because they couldn't spell that was discriminatory! Unfair! Patronising though.

When Gough came to power one of the things he set about doing was introducing phonetic spelling, well sort of phonetic. So programme became program in the Guvvy's new Style Manual, organization was to be organisation and so on.

The Left still imagine that those who support them are not so smart and not so capable of making the right choices, taking care of themselves, or even taking responsibility for the choices they have made.

That is why there is a Nanny State and Labor governments continually come up with more and more laws to interfere in citizens' lives and make their decisions for them. The Greens are worse, totalitarian. But then the Greens always assume to know what is best for everyone, so there!