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Paying for the Floods/Fires

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onthebeach, you say....Of course it is convenient to blame home owners, but the truth is very different. It is not like ministers and their senior public servants to admit fault.

So are you trying to tell me that a home, adjoined to a pontoon, built right on the bank of the Brisbane river, has been built by the owner, without thinking of floods, simply because they received a rubber stamp.

Plain foolish if you ask me, and in any case, the house would have been (pre 2011 floods) millions$.

They build there for the lifestyle and value, then try to blame someone else when it all turns pear shaped.

There has always been a solution, and that's called insurance, however, there are now calls to review the building codes in low lying areas.

Now I am assuming you are new to OLO, cause if you wish to go through my post history, you will note I support your position on building on prime farm land.

Furthermore, you will also see my repeated requests for where the money has gone.

I guess you need to ask Peter Beaty and Anna Bligh, but hey, they have had there fun in the sun, stuffed up many projects, wasted BILLIONS and moved on to cushy jobs and somehow they are not accountable for there actions.

Now as for your suggestion about me thinking property owners and developers are extremely wealthy, sorry, but you have miss read me as I know from my own experiences the risks involved.

However, I do have insurance, despite the out of control costs of premiums.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 4 February 2013 12:27:48 PM
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Poirot

'Don't you think it's about time you stopped parading your ignorance? '
'You obviously equate lots of rain with no global warming. '

No you along with other warmist ignore the hopelessly flawed predictions of your high priest. Maybe you should google Tim Flannery and Al Gore and find out what ignorance your prophets have displayed.
Posted by runner, Monday, 4 February 2013 12:36:10 PM
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rehctub,

If we do not particularise it to the relatively few well to do who deliberately and knowingly built on flood affected river banks, or bought into city apartments as another example, we will not be talking at cross purposes.

But I suspect that many of those individuals will find some way of making good from a clever arrangement with their company or tax structure.

Anna Bligh's days were catastrophic for planning and are testament to the potential disaster that lurks from affirmative action in senior appointments. Emily's List in action I assume.

The few insurers like Suncorp who did not welsh from their responsibilities stand head and shoulders above the rest.

The bulk of insurers let down many people who had done the right thing, but these companies are still getting business from extra advertising. We have moved our insurance.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 4 February 2013 3:22:29 PM
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Yes, yes, runner,

We know you think you're being "vewy vewy" clever by employing religious jargon to label folks with whom you disagree.

Despite your crackerjack interpretation, it appears that's the only arrow in your quiver......
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 4 February 2013 3:40:51 PM
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onthebeach, do not put words in my mouth, particularly ones that I do not have or ever gave evidence of having.
Two troubling story,s from todays QLD press.
One if true is stunning, it is the claim Federal government rules say bridges and such MUST be rebuilt to the same standards!
Surely it should be better not the same, what is the truth.
And sadly donations are far below what is needed.
I have every right to find that awful, having given already, we see news paper headlines that as a result of the last tax levee, many do not want to help this time!
Out standing! kick the victims in the guts to prove a point.
Given a chance rebuilding in safe from flood lands can be a great thing.
Insist on Australian made only, put plans in place to get it done in stages.
Forget the fact some need more help than others, just get the job done.
For every dollar spent our local economy will get most of it back.
Parts of Holland are 6 meters under sea levels.
We can do much by just building better levees and clearing rivers and drains.
More emergency storage of flood waters later redirected in land.
Let us all remember, some houses have been in flood land for 60 or 80 years.
Plan and build for the future and replace those already built.
Farmers suffer by flood ruining their crops, but to as Slim Dusty sang, the best crops are always in flood land, because of the last flood.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 4 February 2013 4:48:48 PM
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Yes onthebeach, Suncorp cover flood on all their policies. I presume that is why I had to drop their house insurance a couple of years back. They had rises of 35% then 45% & then wanted another 40%.

As far as flood costs we've had our share. My entire district was out of power for 82 hours, due to a single fault, not attended to as energex ran around other areas.

We threw our a whole wheelie bin of food, as did most of my neighbours. Many had no water, as you need pumps to get water from underground tanks.

I don't know how those with the high tech single house sewerage systems demanded by councils, as against the old septic system got on. They require power to work.

Fortunately I am handy, as I spent today resurrecting my dam pump motor, which had 9 liters of water in it after going well under. A neighbour has been quoted $2500 for a similar job.

At no time were we advised, nor was it ever suggested that our private flood would be 3 meters higher than any since & including 1974.

AS no one was interested in us out in the sticks, I have no interest in Brisbane. I know exactly how Gayndah people feel, abandoned while others got attention.

The weather bureau is about as much use as the people running Wivenhoe. Fortunately for Brisbane, Newman stepped in with dam releases, but others were forgotten & ignored.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 4 February 2013 5:37:46 PM
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