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Could evidence exist of aliens in our solar sytem

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Spindoc,

I picked up this doco presented by Dr. Steven Greer, entitled UFO Disclosure Project.

On YouTube I also found a couple of clips by the man you were lucky enough to have met - Buzz Aldrin.

There is so much about this subject - arguments both for and against, that it left me wondering just who and what one can discern as being the truth.

Four hours later, and I'm none the wiser, but it was all food for thought, and I still find the the subject matter fascinating. Enough that when time allows, I'll keep sifting through the reams of material posted on the 'net.

One thing I do believe though, is that governments tend to keep truth from the people, and have to wonder why they think it necessary. This naturally leads to suspicion and assertions by many that there is a cover-up. Well that is nothing new. If governments mislead us over matters directly affecting us in our daily lives [i.e. the economy for one] they are capable of misleading us on anything.
Posted by worldwatcher, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 3:45:57 PM
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Dear worldwatcher,

In ancient times the only people that existed
in written history were the inhabitants around
the Meditteranean. With expansionism - new peoples
were conquered. With advancement of technology
exploration expanded even further, finding new
inhabited continents with different cultures and
people of different appearance.

So if different civilisations can exist on our planet
why can't there be other planets with other civilisations?
And if our explorations now expand into space who's to
say that we won't find other more advanced civilisations
on other planets with the capability to travel through space.

Who is to say that our phenomenal development of technology
in the past few decades is not the result of aliens
educating select people on our planet to develop this
technology in an attempt that in the near future they may
reveal themselves to us.

Science fiction whether written or on film is already
preparing us for a probable future, and as past history has
proven, science-fiction of yesteryear is reality today.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 8:33:27 PM
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Lexi I think you will find most of us believe there can be other intelligent life, & probably is, somewhere in the universe. Weather any of it is close enough to us, for us to ever make contact is another question.

Compared to what we had when I was a boy, [I remember listening to test broadcasts from the UK, which came & went continually] our modern communications are pretty good. Shouldn't we have been able to detect something with this technology?

Of course our best may be not much better than smoke signals compared to what we will develop in years to come, so perhaps we are asking too much now.

Perhaps it will only be our kids kids that will learn an answer.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 9:07:36 PM
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Lexi my dear,

I agree with you, why dismiss the theory as one held by crackpots without proof which can explain otherwise. This holds true for those who stand on both sides of the argument.

Sure, some of the sightings have had rational explanations put forward, but isn't it unwise to hold that all sightings can therefore have them?

To confidently assume that we are alone when we are only at the beginning of space exploration demonstrates to me arrogance or possibly the inability to expand their thinking by those who make this assertion.

If we are simply evolved from prehistoric beginnings, how is it that some of the older civilisations displayed remarkable building techniques - some of which cannot be replicated today even with our more sophisticated knowledge, tools and machinery?

Hasbeen could be right - think it won't be proved in our lifetime, but our kids kids could well look back and wonder how we couldn't see it? Oh how I wish we could make a breakthrough before I die!
Posted by worldwatcher, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 10:55:26 PM
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worldwatcher,

Yes it was a highlight of my career to meet Aldrin and others. I worked for a technology supplier to NASA from mid 60’s to 75 and had “guest technology supplier” status for a number of launches, including Apollo 11, 12, 13 and some Gemini shots.

There were many unresolved reports of astronauts experiencing “flashes”, white clouds”, “round white objects”, “streaks” and “blue diamonds”, particularly during early Apollo missions when the causes we not known.

Later missions didn’t mention them because the causes were subsequently identified as SA particles, possibly neutrinos, striking the optic nerve. This is why there were so many different and sometimes large visual manifestations.

Like so many CT’s there is a gradual build up of people filling in blanks, embellishing data, re-explaining a known truth and in this case, mixing up the myths with the movies, Buzz Aldrin himself appeared in one of the Transformer movies.

What you end up with is a mix of fact and fiction. If you read the transcripts of “alleged” alien confirmation by astronaut conversations, the real stuff is liberally mixed up with those same movie scripts. There is nothing mysterious about lost communications in those times, half the mission was in radio silence due to lunar orbits.

Don’t forget that many ex-NASA specialists published books, so the commercial factors also play a $$$$ part.

All things considered, I knew no one at that time that who ever noted anything out of order, alien discoveries or spaceships. Don’t forget that this secrecy business is rubbish; half the bloody planet was monitoring these missions, especially the Ruskis, hence so much coded traffic. I just don’t buy it.

That said, I’m sure there must be other life forms out there. The problem remains that by the time we get to them, or they get to us, we will both be extinct. It’s still over 150,000 light years across just our own galaxy.
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 12:22:18 PM
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Spindoc,

How lucky you were to be involved at that time. Whether all the reports of sighting have a rational explanation or not, you'd have to admit it was an exciting time for us earthlings.

I visited Kennedy Space Centre at Cape Canaveral as a tourist, and was amazed at how something so small had flown beyond our earth's sphere and returned safely. I took quite a few photos, and looking once more at them reminds me of what a marvellous achievement that was.

Now I'm waiting for someone to discover a worm hole to bridge that 150 light year gap :).
p.s. had to put :) in 'cos I've just learned it means a smile.
Posted by worldwatcher, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 5:19:54 PM
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