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579,

If EMF has cancer causing properties - which I am not doubting - why is it that so many studies have concluded there is minimal risk attached to using cell phones?

Have any studies been undertaken to disprove this claim?
Posted by worldwatcher, Saturday, 29 December 2012 3:07:41 PM
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worldwatcher: I always get a buzzing in my head when I am close to high output electrical wires.

It's the rocks that's what it is. The rocks do it. ;-)

I found my old notes,. I am, according to the Telstra man when he first installed the Phone, 1857 meters from the exchange. So I'm inside the 2000 metre limit.

579: I have tinnitus 24/7.

Me too, multiple tinnitus 24/7. Sometimes it's real bad, with multiple frequencies popping in & out at different distances & different angles & at different loudness in quad. It's a real bugger. No wonder I'm nuts. ;-)
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 29 December 2012 3:08:49 PM
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The minimal risk is because the power output is very small. If you keep your phone one inch away from your ear you will not have any effects.
Phone towers are the danger, up to three km's away.
Don't ever sleep on an activated electric blanket.
Tinnitus 24/7 worse on days of high atmospheric pressure.
My ears tell me there's a storm coming 2 days before hand.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 29 December 2012 3:38:36 PM
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I think 579 needs to get his offsider back, he has gone from sensible
to nuts again.
579 said something that illustrates that he really knows absolutely nothing about EMF.

He said;
If you keep your phone one inch away from your ear you will not have any effects.
Phone towers are the danger, up to three km's away.

EMF 101:
The strength of the field decreases proportional to the cube root of
the distance.
What this means is the one inch that you hold your 2 watt phone away
is the same as having the 10 watt mobile phone tower 1/2 metre away.
The field strength from your phone is perhaps a million times stronger
than the mobile phone tower next door.
I will have to dig my books out and work it out, I can't find my
circular db calculator at the moment.
You can do it yourself, 0db as the mobile phone and reduce the field
strength by the ratio to the cube root of the spacing difference
and then add 3db for the higher power of the base station (10 times).
Use 3KM as the distance of the base station.
I don't think it is unreasonable to keep children's mobile phone use
to a minimum. Their skulls would have less attenuation than adult skulls.

Worldwatch complained of head noises.
I know of an old time radio man who used to complain of hearing the
local Broadcast station in his ear.
It was a bit of a pain as he worked at that station.
Went to an ear specialist who gave his ears a good clean out
Turned out, the gunk in his ear had formed a diode and was
demodulating the station signal. Many laughs all round. It was one of
those sessions at the pub where we all tell tall stories.
However it is a genuine effect.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 29 December 2012 5:58:50 PM
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Jayb, I have titinus also at about 8.5 Khz. I can zero beat it in my
ear with an audio oscillator. It is not spurious, it is real with the
hair sensor in the ear oscillating continuously instead of merely
outputting the signal when it is moved by air pressure changes at its
resonant frequency.

Wobbles, I have no opinion on whether it would be better or worse if
there were multiple fibre systems. They would not do digital to
analogue conversion at each border, the cable would be linked straight through.
It seems to be being assumed that with fibre to the node that the speed
down the street on the copper would be the same as it is now.
Not so, with much shorter runs it could be near ethernet speeds.
I have no experience with it but with the copper being a 50th of the
distance I would expect about 20 times the speed.
It is called X protocol, can't remember the exact name.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 29 December 2012 6:07:20 PM
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Wobbles said;
This really is a serious question.
I always get a buzzing in my head when I am close to high output electrical wires. I kid you not!
Even with my eyes closed I can tell when we're near them.
How can that be?

My previous reply about the diode in your ear is probably the solution there.
I have often had my head near cables carrying 100s of amps and never
heard a thing. This sort of thing needs proper blind tests.
I could imagine that very strong 50 cycle fields could perhaps be
picked up, but I have never heard of it. Nor seen anything in any
documentaries or articles. Ahh, a member of the local radio club
is a neurologist, I must ask him at the next meeting.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 29 December 2012 7:02:23 PM
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