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Climate change - Worst case scenario.

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I would have given it some credence if it wasn't for the fact the biggest pusher "Al Gore" stands to make Billions of dollars.
Others as well but they are in the background.
The big problem is Over population.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 18 November 2012 11:54:07 AM
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>>There is now solid evidence that the US Military is conducting experiments that affect weather.<<

In other concerning news it turns out that the AFDB's - http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ - that the Arjays of this world have been protecting themselves with may have been worse than useless!

http://berkeley.intel-research.net/arahimi/helmet/

We should believe the opposite of anything Arjay says because he's probably been mind-controlled to say those things by government and military satellites.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Sunday, 18 November 2012 2:26:24 PM
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Tony Lavis ,if you took the time the view the doucmentary,you would see scientific evidence both in the sky and on the ground.The Geo-enineers themselves involved in these experiments admit experiments are being done but won't reveal how extensive they are.Aluminium levels where they've been spraying,are thousands of times higher than they should be.

Man has been manipulating weather by cloud seeding for many decades.They seem to have a got a lot better at it.Poisoning the environment to stop perceived global warming is not very smart.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 18 November 2012 5:17:35 PM
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Most of the arguments I have seen have been whether human induced climate change is real or imagined. My personal views are that climate change is real, and I feel that some action needs to be taken.

I do however, oppose the carbon tax on three grounds:
1) Unilateral action is pointless with the developing world insisting on the right to match consumption in the 1st world. At worst our lack of consumption of fossil fuels lowers the price for our competitors and accelerates their consumption.
2) A tax on 100% of the generation output increases the cost of power while not making any more incentive to reduce emissions than a tax on the top 10%.
3) Imposing a tax whilst prohibiting the proven single safest and most effective zero emission technology (nuclear) is blocking any serious effort to reduce emissions.

Based on the above, I don't see any hope of reducing global emissions, and thus posed the "SO WHAT" question.

As shown historically, the climate change will be significant, but the world will not become a hot lifeless rock as some green idiots claim. Are our efforts better spent preparing for the inevitable?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 19 November 2012 9:29:01 AM
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SM,

Of course the earth will continue to team with "life" as long as it can be sustained.....humans will probably be around for a while longer, but we've already used up a good portion of the average span for a species. Our "intelligence" + our "greed" are more likely to be agents which hasten our exit, I'm sure.

As for species survival, it's better to stupid than smart.

The bacteria and beetles will still be around when we're long gone.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 19 November 2012 10:32:32 AM
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The worst outcome of climate change –and, as SM points out the climate changes all the time –is likely to be what it spooks us into doing and accepting.

It is the perfect pretext for groups on the left to cede more sovereignty to the UN and its affiliates. A process that is likely to see us all become willing little players in a massive Simon Says game (though, of course, it wont be called “Simon Says”, since “Simon” has too many associations with “old white men” –and the world will have outlawed any reference to such , it is much more likely to called Pachauri or Ban-Ki Says).

And in this UN administered game the majority will spent most of their time doing much as they do now: dancing, which is code for popping out more babies, hunting more monkeys to extinction for bush meat, draining more aquifers and clearing more mangrove swamps for new settlements.

The only real difference will be that whenever there is a plague, famine or flood, Simon will shout: “STOP! this was all due to AGW. To prevent future AGW disasters all those standing on the western side of the room will now have to hop on one foot while they dance.

And after that’s been aranged Simon will say “ Ok players, all is now well, you can all go back to dancing", which as we have read above is code for popping out babies, hunting more monkeys to extinction, draining aquifers and clearing more mangrove swamps. And the majority will happily oblige.Till the next “AGW” disaster, where upon, Simon will shout “All those on the west of the room now have to levitate”.
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 8:05:29 AM
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