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Damage from Hurricane Sandy, why?
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Posted by scribbler, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:44:21 PM
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And on top of all that it occurred at high water springs !
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 12:51:06 PM
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Hasbeen,
I doubt this link will answer your fundamental question, however, it's related to the subject....obviously the north-east of the US is vulnerable to storm surge. Anyway, you may be interested in this analysis of paper published in Nature this year: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S32/98/37G63/ Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 5:25:16 PM
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its a co-incidence..of 4 events..
key of which is the timming of it..[at the full moon..indicating a matriarchal warning sign.. the flood damage is the only really bad fruit of a super high/full moon\..tide..mixing with a cyclical spiral arm of cyclonic surges.. the huge tide surge..at EGSACTLY..the right time..AND PLACE* i discussed it before the event here http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3379 http://www.celestinevision.com/celestine/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3337&start=30 and pretty much over perceptions of it but those ignoring the signs..dont say you wernt told but to return to why all i can offer is HOW* storm surge/full moon..timming. Posted by one under god, Thursday, 1 November 2012 6:22:10 AM
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Hi Hasbeen I followed up your URL and found the following which argues that Hurricane Sandy is the shape of things to come as predicted by most scientists regarding climate change and it effect on the US and Canada.
"The researchers found that the frequency of massive storm surges would go up in proportion to an increase in more violent storms and a rise in sea level, the researchers reported. They noted that climate models predict that the sea level around New York City could rise by 1.5 to nearly 5 feet by the end of the 21st century. Posted by PEST, Thursday, 1 November 2012 8:14:01 AM
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Hi all.
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FYI - found this, which may help too:
http://www.ga.gov.au/hazards/cyclone/cyclone-basics/what.html
Most notably, it says: "Storm surge, or coastal inundation by seawater, is a lesser known phenomenon but can be the most dangerous element of a cyclone."
And:
"Potentially the most dangerous hazard associated with tropical cyclones which make landfall is storm surge. Storm surge has been responsible for more deaths than any other feature of tropical cyclones. Storm surge is a raised dome of water about 60 to 80 kilometres across and typically about two to five metres higher than the normal tide level. It is caused by a combination of strong winds driving water onshore and the lower atmospheric pressure in a tropical cyclone. In the southern hemisphere the onshore winds occur to the left of the tropical cyclone's path. In Australia, this is the east side on the north west and north coasts and the south side on the east coast.
The largest surge usually extends between 30 and 60 kilometres from the crossing point of the tropical cyclone centre, or eye. Its influence also depends on the local topography of the seafloor and the angle at which the cyclone crosses the coast. If the surge occurs at the same time as a high astronomical tide the area inundated can be extensive, particularly along low-lying coastlines."