TRTL.The West in freedoms is going exactly the way of China.Bush brought in the Patriot Act,Obama brought in Preventative Dentention,legalised assassination of suspected terrorists,and now the Nationalion Defence Authorisation Act.Obama also now has power over the internet which he has yet to exercise.

There is very little difference.Just look at how protestors are being treated which the pop media refuses to show.http://patriotsquestion911.com/ Here you will see the few thousand honourable people who are standing up to tyranny.

call it a gut feeling
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-second-brain

but i feel a black flag comming on
info re some past ones
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/summary-of-false-flag-operations-and-false-flag-terrorism/22598/

very sad readings
http://whatreallyhappened.com/

You are making an art-form out of willful blindness, Arjay.

>>Pericles,the USA has the $15 trillion worth of bailouts + Ron Paul's initiation of a partial audit which revealled another $16 trillion of off balance sheet money creation which our banks here were beneficiaries<<

This is not an answer to any of the elements of the question I put to you, which was "Show us how the $23 trillion was created, who got their hands on it and where it was spent." Instead, you once again deliver a mere sound-bite of random numbers, without specifying either origin, destination or usage. You simply don't understand anything about the financial world, do you? As further evidenced by this...

>>...how can the insurance policy be worth 15-20 times the real productive worth or our economy? <<

This should have been the obvious question to ask yourself, before rushing yet again into print. Because the simple answer is that it cannot. Which could only mean one of two things: either the numbers are incorrect, or they do not signify what you believe they signify.

And please, don't call on Barnaby for help. He doesn't understand either.

>>As Barnaby Joyce notes our banking industry has a $15 trillion derivative exposure but a real worth that is a fraction of this amount<<

Let me see if I can help your understanding with a more basic example.

You are a bookie at the races. You take a trillion bucks at even money for the horse "My Nag" to win. You take another trillion from punters betting on the other horses in the race to win. "My Nag" wins. How much is left in the bookie's satchel?

According to the arithmetic used by both you and Barnaby, there should be two trillion dollars floating around somewhere.

Where is it?