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Posted by Philip S, Monday, 10 September 2012 10:06:49 AM
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Phillip S,
Read the post again. He said, 'commission'. And I still don't know what he's trying to say. Anthony http://www.observationpoint.com.au Posted by Anthonyve, Monday, 10 September 2012 10:11:53 AM
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Anthonyve sorry you were right. - I think what "individual" means is people have "compassion" but are the willing to make possible sacrifices to support that compassion. The potential of these boat arrivals if not stopped is incalculable for example the Government budgeted for 450 arrivals per month in less than 1 month we have had nearly 2,000 could you imagine if they got there hands on a large vessel. The money has to come from somewhere, that somewhere is the taxpayer. Of refugees being here over 5 years 85% were still on welfare after 5 years.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 10 September 2012 10:18:46 AM
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You got in just before me - you were quick to point out my error but you failed to answer my questions.
I would have been writing my apology as you were writing. Posted by Philip S, Monday, 10 September 2012 10:21:37 AM
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Ok, chaps, it's a typo it should be compassion. this predictive text bizo is not that hot is it?
Posted by individual, Monday, 10 September 2012 10:54:03 AM
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Okay, thank you all. Now, I've got it... I think.
My point is that the language is rather inflammatory and - I would argue - disproportionate. For example, Phillip S, "...the potential is incalculable..." No, it's emminnently calculable. If you are referring to the number of people who might come, there are several ways of calculating the upper and lower ends of the probably range, based on historical data. If you are referring to the cost, well, that's also quite easy to calculate. But I think you know that. So, when you use a word like incalculable, you are... what's the polite way to put this? Exaggerating, that's the word. My next point is that did compassion become a pejorative term while I wasn't looking? Personally I don't feel a bit insulted when someone accuses me of having compassion. Social justice has a long history. Most cultures address it in one form or another. The Bible, Torah and Quran talk about it extensively. Social justice is what drives me. Let's just have a mind experiment for a moment. Let's just imagine that global warming - alright denialists relax, it's just a mind experiment - but let's just imagine that global warming were to make Australia uninhabitable; that the unthinkable happened and our country became a huge source of refugees rather than a destination. When we grabbed whatever boat we could find and desperately headed for our nearest neighbours, how would we like to be received? Just askin' Anthony http://www.observationpoint.com.a Posted by Anthonyve, Monday, 10 September 2012 11:13:20 AM
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Quote "And who cares about social justice." In the world there are millions of potential refugees and real refugees are you happy for your benefits to reduced and taxes raised if x% of them can here are you willing to risk the future of any children or grandchildren and to what extent are you willing to go to support them.
A year or so ago the Anglican minister was looking for people to house the refugees in their homes, how many did you offer to take in?