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Tony Abbotts delema

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579, I have a very good record with predictions.

As for CN, While I agree he has gome too hard, too quickly, he really had little choice.

You see, because things were so bad here, thanks to 20 odd years of labor, and thier obsession about waste and mismanagement, he has three years to either fix it, or fail.

He couldn't do that by thinking about it.

After all. As usual, he is the leader of a conservative government cleaning up the mess lelf by labor.

History repeating itself I am afraid.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 9:26:03 PM
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rehctub.Always check the spelling,ie dilemma especially for a title.I was looking for hidden meaning in your "delema" but found none.

That said I don't trust any pollie including Abbott who is my local member.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 10:59:02 PM
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Sroy aoubt taht ajray,
but seriously, spelling is over rated, proof being in the fact that you understood what I meant.

Belly, point taken, but I think if you go back through your history, you have downed me time and time again, especially with your 'I'll informed' line, while 579 is my personal objector.

I am happy to draw a line in the sand, but if you wish to take your ball and run, by all means do so.

IR.
We come from different sides of the fence, myself an employer of some 23 plus years, while most of you guys are employees.

You see having a job has gone from being a privilege, to a given right in this timeframe.

The system just can't find middle ground, although I would suggest pre work choices was pretty close.

What I feel is needed is a safety net, then performance bonuses, so those with stronger work ethics get rewarded, without fear of the boss being challenged over it.

Ind contracts protect the employer as well, as the current system sees an employee being able to up ship to a better job, yet an employer can't replace a worker for a better one.

Furthermore, more and more business is done with contracts, and unstable labor causes major problems with these.

Then there are penalty rates.

If you work in a five day industry, that's fine. But in a seven day industry they have simp,y costs hours, if not jobs.

Workers and bossed must be able to come to agreements that suit them, not big brother.

Many like to work Sundays and play golf Mondays, but they can't do that now.

Many mums liked to work Sundays, which gave dad some 'dad time' with the kids. Gone now in many cases.

BHP. Tony has done a Pauline Hansen here, and will be punished for it.

The underlying fact is that mining, is simply another sector that is buckling under the
huge pressures of our unworkable IR system.

If left alone, it will be at our peril.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 6:30:10 AM
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The only thing wrong with mining is, it's overheating, it needs to draw back to a sustainable level. You can only go so far in the fast lane, before being caught.
How long can China go with such a gigantic growth rate.
Not all happenings have a political meaning, Butch.
Linking the carbon credits to Europe is what the businesses concerned were after.
Looks like it is going to happen.
Seeing the sky has failed to fall in over Tony,s Carbon catastrophe, you might see an improvement for Labor in the all important polls. With 15 months remaining till the next election, there will be plenty of sweat to shed, for Dr no and his alliance.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 8:48:01 AM
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579, I fully agree that mining should be wound back, so we can at least provide affordable energy for OUR OWN generations to follow.

The problem I see is that last time I heard, we were still borrowing 100 million a day, so, where will this go if mining slows?
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 11:10:10 AM
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Did Abbott mislead parliament. He attended an interview on something he thought was a forgone conclusion. And answered questions as such.
After finally conceding he did not read the statement from BHP. He still says he knows the real reason for BHP's decision.
This mann is very loose with facts, and continues his negative path in blaming everything on the carbon price. Even to the point of telling company heads, what they meant to say.
This is gross injustice, in taking the Australian people for idiots.
Even his most loyal followers have got to be wondering where this man is headed. Can this be a statesman for AU in the making, or a bumbling fool, with an oversized mouth
Posted by 579, Thursday, 30 August 2012 3:53:23 PM
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