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Posted by Poirot, Friday, 3 August 2012 4:52:50 PM
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bonmot,
I don't know whether you've read this paper by Clive Hamilton. I've posted it before, but I thought I'd repost it here. http://clivehamilton.net.au/cms/media/why_we_resist_the_truth_about_climate_change.pdf "Innocently pursuing their research, climate scientists were unwittingly destabilising the political and social order. They could not know that the new facts they were uncovering would threaten the existence of powerful industrialists, compel governments to choose between adhering to science and remaining in power, corrode comfortable expectations about the future, expose hidden resentment of technical and cultural elites and ,internationally, shatter the post-colonial growth consensus between North and South. Their research has brought us to one of those rare historical fracture points where knowledge diverges from power, portending a long period of struggle before the two are once more aligned." Posted by Poirot, Friday, 3 August 2012 9:48:59 PM
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What a lovely quote, Poirot.
perfectly describes what we're seeing unfolding. Thanks for threading it. Anthony http://www.observationpoint.com.au Posted by Anthonyve, Friday, 3 August 2012 10:05:24 PM
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Poirot,
In view of all the wild claims and distortions made by the so called climate scientists ant their supporters, I think your quote is all bulldust. The warmist brigade have done themselves serious harm to their religion to the extent that the general public no longer accepts what they say as correct. Posted by Banjo, Friday, 3 August 2012 11:54:32 PM
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Banjo,
"....I think your quote is all bulldust." Sounds a bit vacuous to me...."bulldust", I say! Here's another, to which I'm sure you'll bestow an equally profound critique. "In these circumstances, facts quail before beliefs, and there is something poignant about scientists who continue to adhere to the idea that people repudiate climate science because they suffer from inadequacy of information. In fact, denial is due to a surplus of culture rather than a deficit of information. Once people have made up their minds, providing contrary evidence can actually make them more resolute, a phenomenon we see at work with the upsurge of climate denial each time the IPCC publishes a report..." Sound familiar, Banjo? Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 4 August 2012 12:27:28 AM
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Dear Poirot, I think the problem is, that adhering to a position like climate change skepticism so vehemently and delivering this view with vitriol, for so long, means that some skeptics have no choice now but to continue with the self righteous indignation.
Hopefully the Muller experience will be the tipping point for most fair minded folk. Hopefully we will again consider "what we can and are doing about it", important. Posted by thinker 2, Saturday, 4 August 2012 1:26:11 PM
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"...A changing climate leads to changes in the frequency, intensity, spatial extent, duration and timing of extreme weather and climate events, and can result in unprecedented weather and climate events."
Who'd have thunk that?
(Thank you, bonmot)