Paul,

You can't have your cake and eat it. Either the greens stand for transparency or not. Actions speak louder than words, and their actions say that transparency is not for the greens.

As for the election costings, Labor and the coalition had an agreement to submit costings to an independent body, as treasury has a tendency to leak to the incumbent government, and treasury rarely reveals the assumptions upon which it does the costings.

It will probably be like the last 10 times labor was in opposition when they refused to have their policies costed at all.

Note that it was labor that refused to have its costings evaluated by an independent body.

SM

My interpretation of what you are saying. You are absolutely correct you can't trust Liberal or Labor, who can you trust, The Greens of course. As you can testify to, I am total unbiased when it comes to political comment on this forum. I can tip the bucket on Labor as easily as on your mob.
We are taking on Labor and Liberal in the up coming council elections in September. In my ward may preference the Liberal put Labor last type stuff, big chance the Liberal will get up. True. Its all happening election wise for us at the moment. 2 stste by elections and council elections busy, busy.

Paul,

Trust the greens? You must be joking. They are the one party that has never produced costings.

I support the Liberals and Labor in preferencing them last.

SM,

The put The Greens last is certainly, at local council level a bit to simplistic to be workable. If that was to be the case the Libs know we would direct preferences to the ALP even though they to put us last/ The result would be a Labor dominated council, Lib don't want that. So a preference deal where we direct to small l Libs in some wards and ALP or independents in other wards results in a hung council and a bit of power sharing. A deal to share the mayoral duties around the 3 parties is always on.
I was only being a bit light hearted about you trusting us Greens.

How can anyone expect the Greens to come up with any costings when they don't know what's needed ?
It's all good & great to say we want a better society whilst doing exactly the same as all the others. If you want to make a difference then you need to be different. Admittedly it comes at a hell of a cost but if you stick to your principles & keep pushing them all will come good. But, to push a principle it's got to be one that is of benefit to all not just a close circle of hangers-on.
I for one keep pushing for non-military National Service & flat Tax because I know that these two policies will eventuate through sheer necessity. How do I know ? History tells us ! Common sense with all it's scarcity will make a comeback.