Poirot, I doubt anyone can deny that our services are streached to the max and, unless we fine tune where we can, we may well all be living in ghettos, as the public purse only stretches so far.

Why on earth a single mum requires a three bedroom house is beyond me especially at less than a third of market rent at times.

One room for her, one for her child. Now if she has two kids, they can share a room.

If she has more, tough titties, as she is lucky enough to have he first mistake paid for.

Of cause there are exceptions, so each case must be dealt with on a case by case situation.

There is also the scam whereby one partner has kids from another relationship, plus the one or two kids they now have, so, due to the visitation rights, they are often entitled to a four bedded, just for the nights they have their other kids, if ever.

Meanwhile we have thousands sleeping on the streets, while public housing rooms lay emplty.

If one single public housing room is vacant, that's one too many in my view.

After all, it's a hand out, so they should be great full with any assistance thst they receive.

It is great that our nation provides reasonable accomodation for those who can't afford the private market. It is pathetic when people misuse this privilege and destroy the places they are given. I know of families given up to 3 houses after being total anti social and destroying places given to them. When people feel that something is an entitlement rather than a privelege it will be used and abused. The non discrimitive approach discrimates against many who would glady look after a place well.

butcher,

Your "concern" is reminiscent of the middle-class entrepreneurs who began the Industrial Revolution. These kindhearted souls who lured all the country folk to the towns were happy to see them accommodated in hovels - many families to one dwelling in most cases...warms the cockles of your heart, it does.

Perhaps all the fellas that assist in producing the "mistakes" should contribute to a "building fund" to accommodate their children?

It's strange how you guys seem to assume that all these children appear by immaculate conception.

The housing shortage has arisen because various governments sought the old neo-liberal solution of letting the private market take up the slack, which unfortunately it didn't get around to. It did, however, manage to ramp up the cost of housing in general - which is why you get your homeless people. Homelessness is a societal problem, therefore, I expect good old rechtub to open his big heart and take someone in.

(fat chance)

Hasbeen,

Just noted your post..."Typical lefty, wanting the public to pay their way. They make me sick."

That's where your wrong, Hasbeen. They make you "better".

I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm mistaken, but I seem to recall that you often spruik on this forum how great it was that your three heart attacks were attended to on the public purse....or did you pay for everything yourself?

Poirot, Rehctub here.

I really seam to have hit a nerve, if I didn't know, I would picture you as a single mother, or at least a mother of one.

As for the situation, I would suggest runner has pretty much summed it up.

Now as for the fathers contributing, well, decent fathers, who for some reason can't remain in the relationship, do assist with the upbringing of their child.

So perhaps a large portion of the blame lay in the choice of the father, as it takes two to tango.

The baby bonus is as much to blame as anything, as it simply encourages losers to breed with other losers, all in the name of what they perceive as a free lunch.

The thing that amuses me is when these single moms gets screwed over, more than once.

But of cause, it's not their fault as they are simply the victim. It's just a pity these victims can't keep their legs closed, hey!

I'm not sure, but I would assume that the health care card would allow for the likes of the pill.

The whole point of the thread is welfare waste.

It is a huge problem and one that will come back to bite us, as there are simply not enough resources to allow any waste.

Speaking of waste, I see yet again we have millions of dollars, targeted at funding education, flushed down the toilet in the form of pokies.

But hey, some of us already knew that would happen, it's just that the powers to be are too scared to do anything, as welfare recipients are almost half the voting population, and the government knows this.

Poirot, I forgot,to mention that my wife and I do open our homes And hearts to others in need.

We took in one of our wayward nieces for some time, enrolled her in a decent school, provided a stable family environment for her and she did quite well.

She is now in a relationship with a good young fellow and they both have jobs in a mining town.

We also gave up our unit in the city, during peaks holiday season, as another nephew this time was in a serious accident.

We canceled the booking so the family, who lived 90km away could be close to the hospital during Xmas.

We put a wayward inlaw up on our farm. Nothing much but it does have hot and cold running water, heaters and full AUSTAR package.

My wife sponsors a little girl over seas, had done for ten years.

We have donated in excess of a quarter of a million dollars to our local community.

So, what have you done!