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Budget 2012 What Do You Think?

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Lexi,

The Liberals in government, why do you ask about policy? You know their policy on budget strategy.
#1 Sack as many public servants as you you can, cut cut cut, but not the military, they are sacrosanct you never know when Uncle Sam will want you to go in and teach some starving third world country a lesson, sorry give some third world country freedom and democracy like they enjoy in Afghanistan and Iraq.
#2 The only good tax is one you impose on the poor, nothing for the rich just tax dodging and loop holes for them. Like the GST sharing arrangement $1 for the government and $1 for business as they rip off the system, the old cash in hand, no receipt caper etc.
#3 Hit the rich! yes the mega rich like pensioners and people on benefits. Introduce work for the pension scheme, It would not be that unreasonable to ask 80 year old's to work for the pension, only part time, they could do 60 hours a week down one of Clive Palmer's gold mines. The rest like those million lay about public servants who got the chop could clean Rinehart's house, its big enough and the kids wont do it. Who said the Libs don't have a heart, they will cut company tax out, yep, kaput, gone, no more, they will be a low taxing the rich, government. Naturally, like Labor the Lib's will want to help the struggling car industry, they will introduce a $200,0000 a year bonus to all Rolls Royce owners, regardless of income even the unemployed will be eligible for this scheme.
#4 To pay for all this there will have to be big cuts to non essential government services, like health, education, public transport etc.
#5 New work choices #2, like work choices #1 but more humanitarian. The main change will be, a doctors certificate will be required if you are going die before you 100th birthday, and if you are going to be dead for more than one day.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 May 2012 10:44:53 AM
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Dear Paul 1405,

Exactly my sentiments but I couldn't have
expressed them so beautifully.

More please!
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 12 May 2012 11:32:29 AM
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Dear Peter Mac,

I'm well aware of the role of the Opposition but Mr
Abbott has gone well beyond that - its all very well
to hold the government to account - but to make
personal attacks on the PM's character -to totally
disrespect all of your political opponents and to try to
totally destruct everything that the government tries
to do - is more than just playing the role of "Opposing."

I find Mr Abbott to be a street fighter and a bully.
And as I stated in my previous post - I dread our country
returning to the polarised society that it was under Mr
Howard where criticism was common but productive discussion -
was rare. Where infrastructure, health, education, transport,
et cetera will once again be cut and issues like those of
asylum-seekers will grow into major blemishes. Where by the
end of their term in office Mr Abbott - like his mentor
Mr Howard will govern for his place in the record books
instead of for the good of the country (or even his own
party).

There are voters who don't want Julia Gillard. I am one who
does not want Mr Abbott. Anyone but him. And why should the
Liberal Party select (by one vote) a total incompetent when
they have potential good leaders worthy of the position of
PM - like Malcolm Turnbull, and for that matter Peter Costello.
Kroger's attack on Costello recently only confirms that the
man could be a good leader for the entire country and avoid
the future problems created by the Liberal Party.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 12 May 2012 11:54:29 AM
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A bit of a side light to this weeks machinations is the Pete and Mick scuffle on the conservative side. Liked the comment from Kroger. "I don't have lunch with Peter these days as I'm sick of sitting there for TWO HOURS listing to Peter attacking this one and that one." Mind you TWO HOUR LUNCH, yes Mick and Pete should be discussing the woes caused by those malingering workers during their TWO HOUR LUNCH BREAKS as they tuck into their lobster and champers! Kroger get a real job and give up the TWO HOUR LUNCH BREAK or is the TWO HOUR LUNCH BREAK official Liberal Party policy for all workers? What about it SM can we expect the TWO HOUR LUNCH BREAK as part of Work Choices #2.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 12 May 2012 2:51:58 PM
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Paul,

You must be desperate, making up fanciful straw men.

I see the latest Poll puts Abbott far ahead with regards preferred PM.

I see that with Juliar paying Thomson's $200 000 legal fees on the sly to keep him in parliament, and "suddenly" remembering to declare it when the papers found out.

Being in the Labor party means that you can live the high life on workers' dues, and when you get caught with your fingers in the till, the PM will bail you out with the dues from other unions. Thomson has pilfered so much money, and is now beholden to Juliar to keep him out of jail.

The Labor fat cats pretend to represent working families as long as the low paid mugs keep pouring dues into their coffers.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 12 May 2012 9:44:52 PM
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Hi Lexi,

I know that nothing I say will change your mind because I believe perspective requires one to have both eyes and ears open.

Street fighters and bullies who disrespect their political opponents? I would suggest that Tony Abbott is a nice guy compared to some past examples from your beloved Labor – Gough Whitlam (calling someone a cur is hardly respectful), Bob Hawke (portrayed as everyone’s mate but he had a nasty streak in him that was abhorrent, especially pre-PM days) and my favourite Paul Keating (brilliant but to this day he is a master of unbridled arrogance and stinging insults). Don’t forget Kevin Rudd who despite his carefully crafted placid and eloquent manner, held not only his political opponents but his own caucus in utter contempt.

And how about you on this very thread Lexi? It’s pretty grubby and disrespectful of you to suggest that TA got his Rhodes scholarship from his high school principal or a priest (not to mention ignorant). However, I guess it’s a step up from 579 who suggested it was bought. These comments are insulting to TA but more importantly they also belittle and insult the achievements of the hundreds of fine young people who are honoured in this way.

But that's the Labor way, isn't it? People who achieve and perform and derive economic benefits from this must be cut down, taxed and insulted because they are obviously bad. But people who are at the lower end of the socio-economic scale (whether they achieve and perform, or not) are all victims and must be rewarded.

I also find some interest in your suggestion that TA and a Liberal federal government will cut spending for “infrastructure, health, education and transport”. Last time I looked, these were primarily State responsibilities. I hope they do make significant cuts in the obese federal public service departments that shadow these State responsibilities that have grown due to the hopeless inability of the federal Labor government to delegate (to say “control freaks” would be disrespectful).
Posted by Peter Mac, Sunday, 13 May 2012 7:08:53 PM
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