In 2010, there were an estimated 27.5 million people displaced internally by conflict. The largest populations of internally displaced people are found in:

•Sudan: 4.5 – 5.2 million
•Colombia: 3.6 – 5.2 million
•Iraq: 1.3 – 2.8 million
•DR Congo: 1.7 million
•Somalia: 1.5 million

Dear Shadow Minister,

You obviously aren't seeing the light on this issue.

Dear Rainier,

Thank You for the figures.

I hoping this link may put this subject in perspective SM.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/07/06/boat-people-this-is-what-you-are-anxious-about/

And as for democracy (the original subject of this post), I think it would be best preserved for all including boat people.

The only other comment I would make is, that too our detriment the Abbott led LNP have lowered the bar in Australian politics, they simply cannot accept the result of the last election, nor can they countenance that Abbott poorly negotiated his position on that occasion.

Abbott could not be believed by his Parliamentary colleagues on the cross benches then, nor can he be believed now by the electors.
The true danger to democracy, is electing someone like Abbott whilst not having a clue what it is that he intends to do in Gov't.

At the last election he and Joe Hockey deliberately sought to mislead electors by producing so called audited costings for their policies. Found later to be not an audit, the producers of the document later fined and discredited by their own peers.

This process of avoiding Treasury scrutiny of policy costings of claims featured in political advertising, is a new low introduced by that Abbott led opposition. Being elected on false premise is not good for democracy I would have thought. Seeking to do so, has something to do with ethics, motivated by self interest and not the preservation of democracy.

If there is one thing that our current parliament can claim is that it is indeed democractic.
A good case for re-electing the independent members of parliament, could be made on this very fact, whom I think are performing like the only conviction politicians we have left anyway.

Dear Thinker 2.,

You obviously do see things clearly.
There's obviously no bubbles in your think tank. ;-)

T2,

The portion I am interested in is the roughly 4% of boat people that perish making the trip. with the more "humane labor/green policy, more people have died at sea than came to Australia under the Pacific solution.

Lexi,

You have not provided one jot of anything to show how the 96% drop in refugee arrivals that coincided with the pacific solution could have any other solution. Even Labor admits it worked.

Dear Shadow Minister,

I'm not going to continue to argue with you on this
subject. I could provide you with all the stats in
the world - but it would be pointless. It's not that
I'm being anti-social - it's simply that to you -
it won't make an iota of difference - and frankly - I can't be
bothered any more.

See you on another thread which you will undoubtedly
start soon, let me guess - ah yes - on the budget!

Can't wait!