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The mining tax, or is it the mining axe?

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All very well, Yabby, but you still haven't confirmed that you consider the majority of Australians to be leeches.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
Posted by Anthonyve, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 4:11:45 PM
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There is more than tax cuts in the small business plan.
You will know the full story in a couple of weeks.
Yabby's proposal is very short sighted to rely on one commodity, for his new identity. A sudden downturn and you will be in ruins.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 4:13:23 PM
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Anthonyve, you seem to forget the millions transferred from the west Qld, & even little Tasy paying too much for all those manufactured goods produced in NSW & Vic, when their industry was protected by import duties.

Even worse a large percentage paid in duties for imported goods went to the two manufacturing states. If there is any debt between states, the rust bucket states still owe it to the rest.

Just a couple of years back I remembering Victoria bitching it's head off, when Queensland demanded university places Oz wide be distributed on a per capita basis. They had some condescending take on why they deserved 6000 more places than they would get on a per capita basis.

Yes I'm sure they want a bit of the larger states action. I'm sure they hate seeing money wasted on building something better than goat tracks where the money comes from. Good roads, & medical services are for the civilised states, & even then, only for the capitals really.

After we have some decent roads, medical specialists with in 1000 Km of where we live & work, & such infrastructure, perhaps there'll be some to spread around, meanwhile, they should, like Britain, live on the memory of past glories.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 4:14:26 PM
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With regard to the mining tax the fundamental question being argued here is whether the purpose of the mining industry should be to benefit the Australian economy and thereby the people of the country or simply as a means of wealth production for trans-national companies and a handful of locals.
Personally I believe that the royalty/license model was not the best option and has weighted the gains very heavily in favour of the many companies concerned. We have turned our GOLDMINE over to them. We remain open to continued investment by those who can afford it, so this situation will remain until we run out of resources. Wouldn’t we all like to be getting a share of this pie?
Of course if everybody had been offered shares to float a people’s mining company those who invested would be open to accusations of being “leftist", “collectivist”, “anti-capitalist” or some other inanity. This takes us full circle and also raises the question; would we as a people rather support the very system of capitalism which screws us or alternatively grasp it and make it work for us? If the governments of Australia are genuinely intent on pulling back something more for the country from the mining industry through higher taxation we should be supporting them but also making it abundantly clear that we’re not at all happy with the licensing system as it stands.
With regard to climate change, whichever side of this debate dominates ones thinking it should be recognised that climatologists have never before been so well equipped for the task of collecting and assessing the information available, secondly that common sense suggests that mankind cannot necessarily expect that the earths biosphere will accommodate the huge amounts of pollution being emitted daily without at sometime showing signs of breaking down. It is also worth noting that in terms of human liveability, the mantle of air covering the planet only goes up five kilometres to where the oxygen level is half that at sea level.
DEN71
Posted by DEN71, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 5:21:58 PM
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It's worth pointing out, mainly for Yabbie's benefit, that the correct name for our nation is "Commonwealth of Australia".
Perhaps he, or she, though I suspect Yabbie is a he, needs to learn the meaning of the word 'commonwealth'.'
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au
Posted by Anthonyve, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 5:23:50 PM
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Considering the relatively small level of aus. carbon emmisions compared with the vast potential from the coal exported it strikes me as extremely hypocritical of the government to be imposing a tax within this country. Futhermore I fail to see that our carbon tax will make one iota of difference on a global scale.
In terms of employment and wealth production in this country we are hamstrung. On the one hand we are being ripped off in the area of resource extraction and on the other hand our workforce cannot afford to compete in a global market which exploits slave labour in the free export zones of south east Asia. There are in excess of 30 million people around the planet employed in these sweatshops at wages as little as two dollars a twelve hour day. Even those manufacturers who survive in this country will always be competing in this very uneven playing field.
DEN71
Posted by DEN71, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 5:28:34 PM
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