Ludwig,

With all due respect, Bob's public utterances are now considered to be indications of Australia's foreign policy. Ill considered comments (even if true) can cause offence and problems in dealing with our neighbours. To have completely unnecessarily triggered a spat with PNG within 48hrs of assuming the role is a record.

As our premiere diplomat, he should be "diplomatic".

In all truth Shadow Minister your shots at any ALP matter are weak.
Sir I charge you with inability to see your own side.
Like spin doc, recently for me any way, uncovered for what he is, you seem even more committed to a task.
SPIN
In that mater I say well done.
You do it so well.
But as Bob Carr proves to be a great man, he in fact always was, you as is your habit, will neatly side step your comments.

Belly,

You are getting predictable. Whenever your side has stuffed up royally, you inevitably avoid the issue and attack me, usually for being one sided.

Well sorry, this was entirely self inflicted, and the Bob Carr, introduced with much fanfare, is busy back peddling over a threat of sanctions to PNG. The new look Labor front bench looks like a bunch of amateurs.

I agree Belly, about this government.
As always, the only elected representatives who seem to genuinely care about the environment, population, equality and fairness for all Australians, decency in relations with others, caring for people with problems.... all the things we say we're in favour of, AND HAVE POLICIES TO IMPLEMENT THESE SORT OF THINGS... are the Greens. Yet they're always treated as if they're not all there. Why?

Ybgirp, I’m not so sure that the Greens do really care about some of that stuff. Certainly not population growth and therefore not real sustainability.

Bob Carr does. Check out the youtubes from my opening post.

Welcome to our new poster, had a bit of difficulty with your name.
Do not try to remember some, no offense just the way it is for me.
You grant the greens, a minority radical party hiding behind a green name, too much.
Not being nasty, just give my thought consideration, as they become even more radical 88 out of every hundred would NEVER VOTE FOR THEM.
That is as it should be, in my opinion.
If given a chance, I think Australia would vote to get rid of upper houses just to rid ourselves of what I see as an infection known as greens.
SM do you ever get giddy? all that spinning.
Queensland voters will get it right if that is ,and it will be a LNP government so be it.