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Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 8:14:31 AM
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Here's a nice story - leaving out the middle-man.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-06/mystery-donations-handed-out-in-germany/3870432 Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 8:54:53 AM
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http://www.ccfmtn.org/leave-legacy.htm
Well this is still one of my favourite money extracting lines, this time used by the religious: "Convert earthly treasures to heavenly ones" I guess they first sell you the ticket to heaven and then imply that you can take it with you, after all. What clever marketing! Pelican, on the first URL that I posted, I downloaded the conference details, for which charity people had paid 3 grand to attend. Looking at the topics, IMHO its all hard sell, not much different to insurers or any other business marketers. Clearly every marketing trick in the book is being used to extract money from people. Think of all the people in the community with no kids, all their bequests, all the real estate that they own, it all goes somewhere and it would add up to huge amounts each year. When they are getting close to falling off the old perch, they would also be at their most vulnerable and many would no doubt like to think that it would actually do some good, somewhere. Clearly a whole lot of organisations are doing their darndest to get their share of the loot. Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 12:51:36 PM
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No argument from me Yabby.
I remember a few years ago applying for a job at an well known Charity and finding out the salary was well below the award wage (even including weekends) while the CEO raked in thousands above the industry standard (by comparison with other charities). After querying the wage I was told charities and NFP don't have to conform to the same IR obligations. But it seems he was quite happy funding his own inflated salary from donations and some minimal government funding. Naturally I told him to shove it but in the nicest possible way. One expects to earn less working for a NFP often coming with tax concessions, but not what one would consider an illegal wage in any other circumstance. As for your link and other dubious marketing tactics, it would be a shame if charities (too late already for some) forget the very ethical principles that come embedded in the concepts of 'charity' in not applying these principles to their businss activities. Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 3:10:11 PM
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Lol! It seems that the long-arm of the charities has reached out and joined us here today in the form of Allabout!
Hands up all of you who will be rushing to that website to give money? No? I am a bit of a skeptic where most charities are concerned too. I will only buy tickets in raffles for charities, rather than just give money. Maybe that says more about me than the charities? While working in the community several years ago, I used to go to see a woman to dress her wounds 3 days a week. She was a widow with no children, and had no living relatives or friends left anymore. She had struggled on her own for years, with no help from anyone but the community nurses. When she became terminally ill, somehow the Good Sammys found out, and she told me they called around one evening and talked her into leaving her house to them. She was originally going to leave it to the local cat home. She told me she was too sick to care now. After that, I couldn't go near a Good Sammys charity tin again... Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 5:08:18 PM
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Pericles,
>>"That's a really high horse you are on, StG."<< My horse rides over your mound. >>"If you must know - although it is no business of yours - I donate regularly..."<< I didn't ask. You're right, it isn't ... so why share (rhetorical). And I don't care. Posted by StG, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 5:57:22 PM
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to issue..*a tax deductable reciept
for 9 times..the actual ammount donated"
Any that were subject to audit might find that put them in nasty spot. Say the real amount was $100k and you issue a receipt for $900k you might be left trying to explain where the other $800k had gone.
Seems like a losing proposition for whoever wrote the receipt.
R0bert