The other innovation would be to cut back the size of the Public Service.
Arjay,
yes but only via natural attrition. We can't afford job losses as such nor do we want it. What is desperately needed is a reduction of salaries in the public service. Insane amounts of money are literally wasted on people who are simply there. For no reason or other obvious point except being the Labor backbone.
It's high time that accountability is introduced.

You're like a stuck record, Arjay.

>>If I were Bob Carr with the knowledge I have now,I would have created a new State Bank that had the power of credit creation to equal the productivity of the State.<<

Or whatever the cyber equivalent of a stuck record might be.

The only problems with your suggestion are i) you haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about, as we have discussed on oh-so-many previous occasions, and ii) you haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about, as we have discussed on oh-so-many previous occasions.

There is a third, but I can't quite think of it at the moment.

Of course, you could always, even at this late stage, prove me wrong by explaining the real-world activities that would take place in order to "create credit to equal the productivity of the State".

But as we both know, that's where you fail, every time.

Do yourself a favour, and read something - anything - except those weird-and-wacky conspiracy sites on the internet. You'll be amazed at what you will discover.

Regarding the public service Arjay, I don’t think that cutting it back would be the right thing. There are numerous services that are not up to scratch because there are not enough people employed in those sectors. The police is one that comes to mind.

Indeed, the public service should be increasing proportionally to population growth.

But I would agree that it needs to be made a whole lot more efficient, and that overlaps between the different tiers of government need to be eliminated.

But that’s tangential to the thread topic.

Regarding credit creation and the like, I’ll give you a bit more credence than Pericles. I’m sure there is merit in what you are saying, although I admit I don’t understand it very well. But I wonder how relevant it is to Bob Carr’s management of the NSW economy.

It comes back to continuous population growth and the need to provide all the new residents with the same highly consumptive standard of living that established residents enjoy. THIS is the major factor in the degradation of the NSW economy, starting well before Carr’s premiership and extending up to the present.

Some genius of a premier or a really tuned-in government could possibly have implemented a miracle technological innovation or two, or introduced incentives to really get manufacturing and value-adding of all sorts happening as well as maximised primary resource production… and perhaps really hard-sold Australian produce to the world in order to significantly increase exports. But really, none of that was very likely on top of the already pretty big efforts to grow the economy in NSW.

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So I can’t really see how Carr could have done that much, other than insist even more vehemently than he did that the Federal government reduce immigration and thus slow the constantly increasing population pressure in and around Sydney.

But then, if he’d done that, he would really have been going against his party’s doctrine and risking severe backlash. In fact, it is quite amazing what he was able to say about population growth, for so long, and not get totally ostracised by his colleagues.

The fact that he was re-elected multiple times and became the longest continuously serving NSW premier is a pretty good indication that he had the people onside with his desires to stop Sydney from becoming ever-more congested.

He is definitely a very good man for Gillard to have on board.

I just hope to goodness that he speaks out about this stuff and is not stifled under the threat of losing his highly prized job if he does.

Ludwig since Carr is our new foreign minister,put pressure on him to stop the proposed war on Iran.Carr considers himslef to be a person of intellect who loves the original US Constitution.Obama and Bush have trashed it with presidential signing orders.The US is a virtual police state and we are ignoring the fascism coming our way.

Gotta laugh,Pericles hates hearing the truth about private bankster counterfeiting.

With Carr off to the Senate and into the plumb job as Foreign Minister Bob needs to come clean on any conflict of interest between his old job as an adviser at Macquarie Bank and his new position.
The Greens are demanding the former premier declare the clients he has represented at Macquarie Bank, and that he absent himself from Cabinet discussions where their interests arise.
Bob Carr says "That (conflict of interest) will not be an issue. First of all, I (Bob Carr) would be super sensitive to making a decision that affected any one that I had been even speaking to in the private sector"
Greens Senator Lee Rhiannon says a full list (Bob's customers at Macquarie) is needed.
"He does need to be more open about his work, and what projects he's been working on as a lobbyist. This needs to be available for the public." Carr should absent himself from Cabinet decisions which benefit former clients, not some 'whishy washy' promise of being "super sensitive," what ever that means!