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A Voting Quandary
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Posted by Crackcup, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 10:23:59 AM
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I'm thinking maybe that those who complain loudest about our dreadful politicians and political parties should put their hands up for going into politics themselves?
Maybe if we sacked all the current politicians around Australia, and just start afresh with candidates sourced from their most vocal opponents, they could show them all how it should be done :) Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 1:45:03 PM
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Nice thought, Suseonline.
>>Maybe if we sacked all the current politicians around Australia, and just start afresh...<< Unfortunately, the process of creating a politician is entirely contained within one of the most self-obsessed "closed shop" operations anywhere in the country. Before you can replace the people, you will need to replace the system. And to replace the system... Citoyens, aux barricades! How about an "Aussie Spring"? Nah. There's a footy match on the box... Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 5:18:20 PM
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It's probably an old joke, but a mate of mine reckons elections are always stacked.
No matter how you vote, it's always a politician who wins. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 8:40:36 PM
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Not all councils are linked to party politics, with candidates owning a party.
Naturally, they are still mostly old style Nats or new style Libs with a handful of Labs and Greens in there too. If there is a shortage of vision amongst these people, then it can all too frequently be the result of their political allegiances, behind the scenes. It also depends on whether you live in a council with wards or not. A vote in a ward where the councilor has a massive grip is a wasted vote if you are on your own, but in a council without wards, it might have more effect, since there would be more people feeling gyped across the coucil area. As for state elections, again, if you live in a safe seat and do not support the incumbent, your vote is wasted in terms of a changed outcome. However, you can vote strategically, and waste your vote a little less. Vote against the incumbent, giving it to the major opposition person who might unseat the incumbent, and reverse that at the next election, alternately putting in one and then the other of these cloned drones. Or, vote for an absolute outsider and then exhaust your vote (state election only). Not much strategy involved here but at least your preference does no unwanted supporting for you. Never follow a HTV card, unless you happen to agree with it. At the next Qld election, I think it would be fun to give the Katter crew a first preference in the hope they'd get in and make government unworkable, since the LNP is likely to take over on its own otherwise. What a laugh to have a minority LNP relying on Katter's support! Qld would become an agrarian socialist paradise in no time, just like it was back in Red Ted and Joh's days. A 100 foot statue of Black Jack erected in Lang Park, and another one in St. George Square should kick off an interesting time here. Posted by The Blue Cross, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 8:56:08 AM
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the difficulty..of the current system is
govt threat..[armed police]..and private prisons..[and a selfish media] there is a cure the united nations..[un] becomes the sovereign united nation states[sun's] [australia has at least 550..china must have thousands..[etc] i tried to describe it a few times http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=13170&page=0 it all hinges on us recognising we are all origonal [ab-origonal]..from somewhere...everywhere it matters and that knowing is worth knowing credit-able..equally to all it trains its own body politic there only to serve the living [not dead corperate trusts] keep it simple runs community via school based recources act locally..think globally] Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:15:41 AM
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rapidly approaching, I have been doing a spot of soul-searching
in an effort to try to convince myself that my "my vote is
important!" considering the total chaos that exists across
the political spectrum.
The Local Government Council area politically is an absolute
shambles, being nothing more than a rubber stamp for State
Government policies and decrees.
Democracy itself disappeared with the implementation of Beattie`s "forced" Amalgamation process.
This once great State appears to have been now relegated to the position of being the worst and most expensive State to live in overall.
The Federal sphere of things is not much better with the
current Labor Government seemingly intent on putting the
country into hock forever, whilst wallowing in the deviseness
created across the nation with the continuation of the grand
plan, the Multicultural Nation, a failed experiment that will
ensure generations of racial tension, mass unemployment and a decaying social system.
I survey the long, long lists of Candidates vying hopefully
for a position at the taxpayers-funded trough, many without
a single thread of moral responsibility to this nation, but
bursting with an overpowering desire to please their masters
and their Party`s policies, in a frantic bid to claw their
own way up the tree to political and financial prosperity!
I flounder in the knowledge that regardless of the direction
that I may cast my vote, the system will remain, a runaway train
thundering downhill towards the inevitable derailment!