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Talking about porcupines ...
Leap-frog anyone?
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 8 December 2011 1:11:40 PM
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I recall a comment made by an auteur on Q&A a while ago.

Rather than permit gay marriage, he suggested that we put our efforts into making heterosexual divorce illegal.

Now wouldn't that change a few perspectives?

I think the marriage aspect is more or less symbolic window dressing when the true goal is actually spousal equality in the eyes of the law.
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 8 December 2011 2:54:54 PM
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Lexi I have never voted for anyone else to assume any right to be my conscience, & neither did I select a candidate to take that roll.

I will never accept any law passed by a conscience vote. It's actually an oxymoron to even mention conscience & politician tn the same sentence. Julia anyone?

When I vote, I vote for the policy of the party I am voting for. I do not accept any party's right top change any policy, without taking it to the people. Carbon tax anyone?

To suggest that we will find enough people with a conscience in parliament to form a quorum is a pretty novel idea mate.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 8 December 2011 4:13:04 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Whether you accept any law passed by a conscience vote
or not is irrelevant. All you are entitled to do in
a federal, representative parliamentary democracy -
is elect your representative in parliament. And if you
don't like the way the Australian government deals with
the challenges of the day - you can not vote for them
at the next election. However, the importance of a
conscience vote is that it does enable members of the
front bench to vote on way or the other and not put their
position on the front bench at risk. BTW: Most Members of
Parliament know how their constituents feel about certain
issues - and they are aware of what is expected of them
as their representatives in parliament. It seems that most
people on this particular issue are pro - same-sex marriage.
You may need to contact your MP and let them know of your
views before the next sitting of paarliament if this is
of concern to you.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 8 December 2011 4:44:06 PM
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The positions that parties put forth in their platform should be adhered to after election. However, votes on all other matters should be determined by a combination of the wishes of the constituents, the conscience of the legislator and the good of Australia and the world.

I am married to woman and expect to stay married to her until we are parted by death. I fail to see how allowing people of the same sex to marry threatens my marriage or anybody else's. I have heard that opponents of same sex marriage regard it as a threat to marriage. Please explain how it is a theat to marriage.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 8 December 2011 5:07:34 PM
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The real question is not of marriage but of the right to raise children.Gay relationships on average last far fewer yrs than hetro ones.Some are openly hostile to their opposite sex.How do both genders get a balanced view of their sexuality and identity in a homosexual relationship? The issue is not simple and big egos on all sides need to look at what is good for a child who may have the opposite sexual orientation to theirs.

In a hetro situation there is an option of yin and yang to seek advice and guidence.There is no ideal family environment but throwing open the doors to gay abandon may be courting disaster.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 8 December 2011 7:26:09 PM
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