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Another boat tragedy, another border protection failure.

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Luciferase said;
more humane than turning boats back out to sea,

They did not turn back out to sea, they turned them back to land into
Indonesian waters.
From my reading of those incidents they took place just outside
Indonesian waters and they towed them back and left them with enough
fuel to get back. The Indonesians could not refuse them landing as
they are Indonesian vessels.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 10:36:05 AM
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Is this what you support going on just off Christmas Island? It takes nearly a fortnight from Indo to get this far in a crowded unseaworthy vessel, before meeting Australian attitude..... THIS IS WHY THE BOATS STOPPED COMING. Forget Nauru!

The log of HMAS Adelaide was tabled before a Senate committee on 21 February 2002. Extracts from that log relating to the inception of Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel 4 in October 2001 are below:-

6 October [2001]

1813 First warning given to master of vessel.

7 October [2001]

0153 Second warning issued.

0216 Boarding party ordered by Commanding Officer to prepare to board SIEV-4 when vessel enters Christmas Island Contiguous Zone.

0258 Adelaide made close pass down SIEV-4 starboard side.

0335 Adelaide directed by CJTF to conduct a positive and assertive boarding.

0402 Warning 5.56 mm (cannon) shots fired 50 feet in front of vessel.

0405 Warning 5.56 mm shots fired 75 feet in front of SIEV-4.

0409 Warning 5.56 mm shots fired 50-100 feet in front of SIEV-4.

0414 Boarding party advised by CO that if 50 cal machine gun warning shots do not stop vessel, boarding party is to aggressively board SIEV-4.

0418-0420 Twenty-three rounds of 50 cal (20 rounds of automatic fire) fired in front of SIEV-4.

0430 Close quarters manoeuvering by Adelaide, SIEV passed close astern to Adelaide port quarter and reduced speed/took way off momentarily.

0432 Boarding party issued final warning (to SIEV) indicating that if they did not allow boarding party to board, Adelaide would not let them enter Australian waters.

0442 Boarding party effected a conducted non-compliant boarding of SIEV-4.

0445 Boarding party in control of SIEV-4.[1]
Posted by Luciferase, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 11:10:38 AM
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Dear Luciferase,

The art of reasoned, intelligent argument supported
by knowledge of the issues and facts, is a skill not
easily acquired. You are well informed and as a result
you're winning the argument hands down. Well done!

Keep it up!
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 11:17:50 AM
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Dear Lexi,
I am with you, how can anybody disagree with the results of an inquiry?
There should be more of these inquiries to weed out the unabashed liars such as we have seen recently.
Have been away Lexi, so am just easing my way back into OLO.
Hope all is well,
NSB
Posted by Noisy Scrub Bird, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 11:52:04 AM
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Dear Noisy,

Welcome back my dear!

You have been greatly missed!

All is well now that you're back!
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:08:53 PM
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LF,

So whilst the 4 boats turned around in 2001 and 2002 may have helped stop the boats, how can you explain the lack of boats in 2003,
2004,
2005,
2006,
2007
and 2008, even when the Labor government made it clear that they would not turn boats back.

Why was the closing of Nauru the trigger for the swarm of boats that followed, and not the stopping of turning the boats around in 2002?

I take it from your comment that you actively support sending women and children to Malaysia where they have no legal protection.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:12:31 PM
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