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Are democracy and monarchy compatible?

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Dear Hasbeen,

You need not worry. The Queen does not play a day-to-day
role in Australian government.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 20 October 2011 5:56:58 PM
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Lexi,

She doesn't play a day-to-day role in UK politics either.

That's the reason she's been around so long.
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 20 October 2011 8:05:40 PM
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Dear Wobbles,

Nah. Royalty to Britain is what Disneyland is
to the US.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 20 October 2011 9:57:35 PM
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So true Lexi, but with so much more class.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:50:12 PM
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There is no room or place for the monarch in a liberal democratic state, if that is what we think we are.

But worse than just having the UK sovereign as ours, is the fact that we have no 'wall of separation' here between church and state.

If we are to move to being a republic then we have to create a wall of separation, divorcing government support for any and all religion.

Unfortunately, the goons who say they represent the public voice for an Australian republic, are not supporters of this wall of separation, being mostly Roman Catholics, who would stand to lose a swag of preferential treatment from the state.

Of course, were we ever to move to republic status, the idea of having a president that can oversee our behaviour and guard against a bad government is merely a recreation of the monarch concept.

How pathetic are we?

So, having created a plural liberal democratic republic, we need to take the next step and ensure that our two houses of parliamnet are the means of government, with no faux monarch sitting atop it and all of us.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Friday, 21 October 2011 7:56:27 AM
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Strictly , our monarchical system and that of Britain 's are compatible with democracy [ generally understood as appointing governments by popular vote of all adult citizens ] .

However , monarchy is quite incompatible with modernity and respect for human beings , regardless of race , creed , colour or social origin . Where law provides that the head of state , even a largely ceremonial one , can be appointed only from members of one family ,that law treats every citizen , not being a member of that family , as being inferior .

If it was said that the monarch could only be a white man , there would be considerable discontent [ even though , except on two occasions only a white man has held the position ] . Yet , so many accept that only the Windsor family may provide the monarch .

It was nauseating to see Quentin Bryce and Julia Gillard curtsy , bending their knees , to this boring foreign aristocrat . In doing so , they have humiliated not only themselves , but the Australian nation . At the very least , they could have agreed , in advance , not to do this act .

The visitor 's British retainers could have been told in advance and , if they deemed this to be unacceptable , they could have been told that neither Bryce nor Gillard would greet Mrs Windsor . David Flint or Michael Kirby could do so , instead .

Incidentally , male Governors General and Prime Ministers are not expected to curtsy . Why should their female counterparts ? This is a further example of the unfairness and antiquated nature of this monarchical system .
Posted by jaylex, Friday, 21 October 2011 8:19:51 AM
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