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Systemic, organised fraud! Are union dues for Union bosses frivolous expenses?

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I will throw another can of petrol on this fire.
And in truth a few union officials I have known, all my life, from my youth to now.
Well get back, a few are kicking but its on the bon fire they go.
Now know this.
Conservatives, rightly so, and I thank them for it, demand no protection for ANYONE REMOTELY linked to Labor.
Labor, desperately clinging to power, on behalf of every AUSTRALIAN fear stricken-ed with fear, by a Abbott team in power, wait before pasting these fleas .
However Conservatives are outstanding defenders! of their teams members/wrongs.
Watch every time charges come up the white wash come in tankers.
See the back door retreats from Parliament, note the new jobs as industry union leaders they find.
Yes thanks Shadow Minister.
My regards/thanks/ admiration for your insistence on unmasking the FILTH! within my party/union movement.
My Friend, if only!
If only you showed the same intense concerns about the wrongs, daily lies, on your side of the fence, I would fall at your feet demanding no one but you lead my country!
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 6:41:06 AM
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Belly,

The moment that we conservatives point out the graft and corruption that is endemic in the union movement and the labor party, the answer always comes back that the opposition is just as bad.

The only problem with this argument is that no one from the Labor supporters is able to come up with anything other than minor transgressions, compared to the systemic and organised fraud from Labor MPs.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:04:16 PM
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It Shadow Minister is true, on first glance you are not a person I can find much to like about.
I have rarely said that about any one.
I do, honestly see Christopher Pyne in you.
Also both Both Bishops.
Not Abbott, true, no barbs, you are bright he is not.
Have you glanced ever at my Post history?
Just yesterday in a far away rego office a bloke clutched my hand, still do not know who he was.
I was his union official, he was proud to see me, not as you suspect a every day thing, for union officials
Today, one turned up to say Gday.
See I stood firm, lost mates, against filth in union shirts for 42 years.
I despise union/Labor grubs/criminals.
You, have told me here, you are a project manager, Shadow Minister tell me, have you ever had to straighten out your team.
For hiring and firing based on who pays the biggest gifts.
Construction today has more criminals than long bay prison.
And few honest men.
It is cowardly to find faults, true ones, on my side of the fence, and hide those on your side.
Abbott speaks in the back ground, your support for this showman this snake oil salesman is descriptive.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:58:03 PM
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Belly,

You forget that Abbott is a Rhodes scholar, and that all his tactics have worked against what some respected commentators have predicted. As for snake oil salesman, Juliar is delivering to the voters mostly what she promised not to, and has the morals of an alley cat.

As for projects, it was well known in NSW that in order to get a project approved a "donation" to an MP's election kitty was required, and lobbyists essentially acted as the middle men.

Considering that many Labor MPs are ex trade union thugs what else could you expect. That you yourself never rose to the top, is probably due to your reluctance to be morally ambiguous.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 2:47:59 PM
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If you and I are for sake of debate seen as football fans here is how I see us.
You, a bit like the New Zealand Minister for bad manners the other night.
Scream abuse at my side, even if yours is not playing us.
You contend the ref is wrong lines man, anyone but one of yours.
My record, here and in real life via my football team.
Shows me highlighting our dropped balls our duds.
Monday morning I cop it on the chin, say openly we played awful!
You never see faults in your team.
Have you any understanding? do you even consider? to love your team right or wrong says out loud improvements is unneeded?
SM who do you think your denial is fooling, besides you?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 4:31:35 PM
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Belly,

If you can find anything done by a coalition MP that approaches what Thomson and Williamson have perpetrated, then I will acknowledge that both sides are equal, until then what I see is that Labor has pretty much cornered the market on corruption and sheer criminality.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 5:03:36 PM
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