belly quote..""The thread is not going to make it.""
at least you know its the topic
not you

""It is related to one that bought pain and anger""
it dosnt read angry

""my view we should be able to vote
with out distributing any preferences.""

we can in qld

""Just vote one."'

i hate that phrase
peter beatup beaty..had a poster one year
thats all it had on it..[hundreds of them
on every approach to the main booth]

""To work in an upper house
it would need ONLY THOSE..getting a full quota''

A PERCENTAGE OF THE REGERSTERD VOTERS?
OR A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO VOTED?

""without preferences,an odd number
with extra votes expelled.""]
]
HOW COME?
I PREFER EVERY VOTE COUNTS

""Too many,do not understand our system,""

HECK NO MATTER HOW MANY VOTE
WE STILL ALLWAYS GET A WINNER
i rekon if less than 70%..then we should do a re-run

""I lost Friends over it.""
dont pick political friends
politics attracts oppertuinists

""every chance,in our current system of winning seats.""

yeah best to get rid of
the representation..for the rest of us
just 2 parties matter

""how do we justify,even accept,
upper houses with so few voters
having more representation than the vast majority?""

funny enough..the masses often get decieved
thus the most dont mean the best

""I want party's elected to govern.""
me too..but i would ban ANY..party line as treasonous

""Love to see a referendum next election
about abolishing the senate."'

i would have loved a refernded/VOTE..on carbon tax mate
and smoking tax...and the other taxes/laws..NO ONE mentioned

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/premier-shrugs-off-inquiry-demand-over-pub-lobbyist-20110903-1jrdh.html
Not every thing is good in the NSW government.
While it has no impact on my thread it would be worth remembering my party's fate.
And that two former leaders one mine and credited with an achievement here and one conservative.
In the opinion of most, had reduced our state to a criminal activity for them selves.
From little things big, sometimes bad, things grow.
NSW currently is home to a whole gambling sport tainted by the understanding it is known the out come before the starter lets Trotters/Pacers go.
Indeed the red hots aw generations have known.
Lets hope a state too often protecting crime is not at it again.

this was going to be a new topic mr bell
but as you know my 'topics generally are ignored'

further it may be too political
[in the light of a mother less unwed athiest pm
controled by a fatherless green homosexual]..the link to this your topic is manyfold

you dislike that cardinal pell and the greens[from memory]
and seem to have awoken to that spin merchant we call juliar

the title was going to be called something like 30 pieces of silver?
or spin and green carrots from unwed athiests[but when i went to post a new topic i noted the first law

do not redirect current articles
so i thought..this might fit in with bellies [ignored topic]
on the basis of bias..and govt being ransomed..so mate here goes

you will have noted the media saturation last night
[re parent[fathers]..getting 30 pieces of silver
to do their fathering

[BUT mate NO ONE has mentioned that other stuff..
added in by special intrests groups..to wit the stick
that goes with the car/root]

or rather the spin hiding the fist...
inserted by the not mother
not father

[special interests]
who's biggest gain..is holding the balance of POWER
[and loving it]..to wit that smokers tax..

and NOT the miners tax

but here goes the link
yesterday i note allready 75 posts?
today it runs 10 pages
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12558&page=0

the initial aerticle was this one
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12558

but i had to pass on reading them
TILL I READ THE NEWS LAST NIGHT..and ONLY heard of the carrot

ie NOT THE OTHER SIDE
ie those..NOT represented by govt..of any level

THATS both the reason and the danger
inherant in having two houses
[that serve a certain adgenda....

RECALL mate that other topic..
re the masons..that too was ignored mate}

it all relates
they wanted more woman in the two party parlement

[as you know they are loyal...to the party line...

as well as easilly sold to green things..
and fighting off them horrible men..that made their lives hell..[to wit us..who easilly could pass as masons]

men like you and me

that are too opinionated
and must be ignored and oppressed at all levels

cause to an unwed homo greenie..we all look the same
ie mustr be ignored and cast out
and thats how it is

im nearly out of web acces mate
4 december you wont hear me no more
then i will leave it to the kids..to figure things out by themselves

and be able to ignore the spin
and the carrot and the moralising stijch'e

[stick make johan9 sick]

OUG in a world that tells us not to talk about politics we need to understand some just will not.
Some too will not know the events of past generations.;
My last post here mentioned two former Premiers, both left no doubt they had criminal connections.
Unsurprising, a police commissioner went to prison in QLD.
Sir Robin Askin and Neville Wran could have been Mafia heads, goggling Sydney crime in there time , our life time, would shock.
But there is the only sustainable reason not to talk politics, you may find out just how much a fraud it can be.
I am afraid mate we will always differ here I see good politics as getting the result most want, better than that is not possible.
And I too get most upset when minority shakes the majority tree.