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Kidneys for Sale first Chennai now South Carolina

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[Article: Weekend Australian March 10-11 p12:]
A proposition to give inmates of US state penitentiaries up to 180 days of their sentences if they 'donate' a kidney raises a few questions in the ethical and legal debates about the effect of giving a ‘valuable consideration’ for organ donation.

In Chennai apparently peasants are now selling their kidneys for about 3 years wages (500 pounds). In a world where many, many individuals have a super-indulgent level of wealth and many, many individuals are so compromised they end up selling their organs to survive, I have to ask, is it really ‘left-wing’ to say individualism has gone too far and communalism has not gone far enough?
Posted by Rob513264, Saturday, 10 March 2007 11:59:32 PM
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I agree that the ethics of shortening a gaol sentence pivoting on selling a kidney are really questionable. This is totally unethical, left right or centre. If we start to play the game of "-isms", then we loose a commonsence or a common ground many share when it comes to ethics.

Whether the debate goes to individualism or comunalism, I think I know what you mean.

The value of human life must not be reduced below the obsession of the economy, greed and the stench of "the dollar" ruling our lives. Christians call enumerating human life to the point where numbers or bar codes on a body are a sign of satan. Socialists would refer to expoiting the body to capitalism. Post-modernists would deconstruct the power dynamics in situation politics. All philosophies share a common ethical premise that liase-faire liberalism denies.

Maybe this is why left and right can share common ground.

So where do they get the needed kindneys from? This is a question I simply don't know the answer to. Usually family and friends come to help out.
Posted by saintfletcher, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:17:17 AM
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If these people that need kidneys and can afford to buy them, cant get a family member or friend to donate (maybe for the cost of the medical treatment), then I think that says a lot about the sort of people they are.
Posted by Country Gal, Monday, 12 March 2007 10:19:55 AM
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It works out quite well in China. So many are executed that it is possible to coordinate the operations with the executions so that the organs are quite fresh. You might also be able to get a discount coming in to holiday times, on the off chance that prison numbers need to be reduced so that there are adequate guard numbers. The prisoners consent forms are forged and their looted bodies cremated to hide evidence. Guards stand ready at executions with chokers to prevent the condemned from blabbing.

The recycling of life giving organs is the only good point of this. How many Australians have gone to China to have organs transplanted from executed criminals?
Posted by Fester, Monday, 12 March 2007 6:43:14 PM
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Then again, there is at least something that comes from this state sanctioned murder. In looking for examples of unnecessary brutality, I find this video of Japanese fishermen hard to trump. Totally sick.

http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 9:53:16 PM
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But they don't just kill them they use the meat.
Is there any difference really in cutting sheeps' throats or twisting chickens' necks?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 5:57:13 PM
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